Therapist Reacts to HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON

2021 ж. 20 Қыр.
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Why do Hiccup and Stoick struggle so much to connect with each other?

Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright talk about the father-son relationship in the How to Train Your Dragon movies. They talk about how Jay Baruchel's Hiccup and Gerard Butler's Stoick are so different from each other, how Hiccup feels like he doesn't fit in or live up to his dad's expectations, and the journey of how they come to understand each other. And of course how absolutely beautiful the animation and music are and how awesome the script is. Also, there are dragons, and tears.

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Written by: Megan Seawright, Jonathan Decker and Alan Seawright
Produced by: Jonathan Decker, Megan Seawright & Alan Seawright
Edited by: Luke Mclean
Director of Photography: Bradley Olsen
English Transcription by: Anna Preis

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  • "you have the heart of a chief and the soul of a dragon" "And the body of a toothpick" My father added on as I sat there bawling the first time I've watched this. 🤣

    Incognito GirlIncognito Girl7 ай бұрын
    • JUST SO GOOD

      Lotie The BunnyLotie The Bunny4 күн бұрын
    • They need toothpicks too, don't they?

      CarbadoniaCarbadonia18 күн бұрын
    • lmfaooo cool dad

      me and madaras two giant balls against the worldme and madaras two giant balls against the world28 күн бұрын
    • LMAOOO

      Taryn HiebertTaryn HiebertАй бұрын
    • i love this so much. thanks to your dad!

      Brenda CastroBrenda CastroАй бұрын
  • As a Scottish person I find Alan's impersonation absolutely brilliant, one of the better impressions I've heard its class.

    leah mcgregorleah mcgregor6 ай бұрын
    • as Scottish is in my blood, the challenges I find with my parents even at 44, and it's in the blood, I'll admit its wisdom of living a world, and brash reality awaking that mold brash new directions... very scottish. Molding tradition in spikes, while loving a person in frustration of difference. Look at how the country survives events of history, it'll give clarity. in short, I always felt cinema tends to get the bluntness of Scottish very spot on. Explain of how in brave and dragon, the kids are brash and blunt back even if they know they cant fight the fight yet.

      William KirkWilliam Kirk3 ай бұрын
    • I cannot tell you how happy this makes me! Thank you so much!

      Cinema TherapyCinema Therapy6 ай бұрын
  • I like the small interaction between hiccup and the axe. He has trouble handling the weight and I don't know if the writers intended this next part is but Stoic handing Hiccup his axe is a very physical representation of a father handing expectations down and the son struggling with the weight of those expectations.

    Actual TeddyBearActual TeddyBear9 ай бұрын
    • It’s even more beautiful that you can barely see, as Stoic is dominating the screen, dominating everything as he always has and leaving Hiccup to suffer silently

      Mar MarMar MarАй бұрын
    • Can relate!!!

      Lotie The BunnyLotie The Bunny2 ай бұрын
    • Understand that the animators had to spend HOURS on that one scene. Nothing is an accident or unintentional.

      A rare potatoA rare potato2 ай бұрын
    • Getting great at swordsmanship gave Hiccup another way of developing his own style different from anyone else in his village.

      Unicorn TamerUnicorn Tamer3 ай бұрын
    • @Maxx Rice further showing stoic does not understand hiccup

      horseraxhorserax3 ай бұрын
  • I love Toothless. I always saw him as a cat rather than a dog - his movements are very graceful and cat-like (and he's contrary like a cat).

    Miranda HudsonMiranda Hudson3 ай бұрын
    • and designed after a cat

      Aspen AnimationsAspen AnimationsКүн бұрын
    • The dragons - especially Toothless - are cats, not dogs. The designer said as such.

      Illisia AdamsIllisia Adams7 күн бұрын
    • Yeah, Toothless movements and behaviors were actually based on those of a cat! And I literally see just a big, very smart can in Toothless literally every time ❤

      Call.Me.WhateverCall.Me.Whatever9 күн бұрын
    • While cats were used as inspiration for the body model, dog behavior was used to develop his behavior. Many of you won't believe this, but I've see it first hand myself, as my dog lays down and rubs in the grass like toothless does in the first movie, among a multitude of other happens that had me go "damn, didn't know they did that type of stuff"

      DarkOne.....DarkOne.....Ай бұрын
    • @Shane Lawrence lmfao was just about to explain that-- that really is adorable and clever

      Artsy EmaruArtsy EmaruАй бұрын
  • "This doesn't make Stoik a bad father, it just makes him human." Is such a profound statement, especially in the realm of TV where any misstep "against" the protagonist is seen as being a bad person. Parents are just people too; they're just like all the rest of us and they make mistakes and lose their tempers and cry when they're upset etc. It's what happens after a mistake or lapse in judgement that shows a person's true colors.

    yesterdayimetj2myesterdayimetj2m10 ай бұрын
    • YESSS

      HatHat4 ай бұрын
    • This needs to be shown more and I'm always happy to see it. I always have a hard time defending my father especially now that he's gone, but also not lash out or demonize my mother for her own mistakes or fall into a guilt ridden depression over not being everything I can't imagine would have been needed to make it alright, or what they wanted, or strong enough to fight back as much as resentment wants me to. Ultimately they are just people and forgiveness and understanding can be so hard but it's the crux to mending the wounds imperfections leave. I am so happy (although I wish it could have been better) that while my father and I weren't near done working out our problems, that we were both trying. That we got as far as we did. Without understanding that we would never have been able to stay in each other's lives and I wouldn't have been able to tell him I loved him before he died. and it's still hard now to relay that he wasn't a villain, and be rightly outraged forever, but he wasn't. It would be easy to say that but it wouldn't be true. That doesn't mean it wasn't wrong, but he wasn't evil.

      Fio MoriFio Mori5 ай бұрын
    • Stoic is a hard person, but not a evil one, in the first movie he is always acting to help the village, when him try to distract the big dragon(first movie "boss" dragon), so the rest of the village can escape from him

      Victor SrurVictor Srur6 ай бұрын
    • To quote Taylor Tomlinson, "We need to stop seeing parents as these all powerful beings. They're just people, who _suck_ like the rest of us. That's how we should introduce them, 'These are my people, Ron and Mary, _they do what they can'"_ For clarification she's a stand of comedian, that particular quote comes from her Netflix special "Quarter Life Crisis"

      Wolfish PotatoWolfish Potato8 ай бұрын
    • @Lunar Robot Thank goodness for the friends Chicken Little had then.

      Counterattack24Counterattack2410 ай бұрын
  • During Stoic's funeral, when Hiccup was firing the arrow, it's so easy, especially with the fact that it's a kids movie as well as Hiccup as a whole, to make the small joke that "haha, he missed". the fact that Dreamworks didn't do this speaks multitudes about how much they respected this trilogy. They knew it was a bad time for a joke, no matter how small, and that's not very common anymore

    DonoFabDonoFab8 ай бұрын
    • I wouldn't get the joke if they did though because, to me, he didn't miss. The boat is made of wood, Stoick's been layed down on a pile of wood, which he hit. If I was in that situation, if anything, I'd hope to god that I didn't hit the body.

      TheDaxter11TheDaxter116 күн бұрын
    • Fun fact: Hiccup hit the pyre in the perfect spot. Starting a fire at the center of the base is the best way to make sure that all of the wood, and body, in this case, burns completely. He honored his father with a perfect shot, as a last farewell.

      Xanatos7707Xanatos7707Ай бұрын
    • Lmfao i woulda shit my ass if they actually did that. *MISSED* opportunity. Pun entirely intended.

      Cdog ThehedgehogCdog Thehedgehog2 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, I can't help but think of Shrek 3 in that sense, where the king dies like 3 times because haha funny, and it's like... What do you want me to feel? A major character just died...

      Goku x SephirothGoku x Sephiroth2 ай бұрын
    • That, and it wouldn't really have made sense, either. Sure, Hiccup is still kinda lean in the second film, but he's definitely strong enough to pull and aim that bow accurately.

      19panther4319panther433 ай бұрын
  • I liked that even though Hiccup was an outcast and constantly being passively rebuffed, he never shrank away from how he was feeling. He never appeared weak or beaten-to-submission. He was very sure on what he thought and who he was, he was just frustrated with the way people treated him. He had little sarcastic comments and argued back- not in a mean way, but in a way that showed that he felt that what he was saying was worth listening to. I feel like a lot of characters with this innocent, well-meaning outcast trope can often be less confident to show that they are so beaten-down- which is fine, but I feel like Hiccup being less like that makes him more relatable.

    Prior2PopularPrior2Popular9 ай бұрын
    • Extremely late comment I apologize but I just love hiccups character sm. Yes! I love both versions of the outcast troupe, but for this movie this was the best one to do. He's so eager and keeps on believing that he'll get his moment in the limelight- and it makes the moments where he's berated instead so interesting. And even when he's developing COMPLETELY UNPRESIDENTED friendships with dragons, he holds out hope "This is my true place in the world and people are going to see what I see in these dragons if I stick with it" Sorry for the long gush just. *gently holds* I love this passionate nerd

      Mabel sanMabel san5 ай бұрын
  • I love how vulnerable you guys are when sharing your thoughts with us, thank you for these videos

    Maria Eduarda FajardoMaria Eduarda FajardoАй бұрын
    • This episode especially touched me; first time I've cried during a Cinema Therapy vid.

      Violet_CreationsViolet_Creations12 күн бұрын
    • Our pleasure!

      Cinema TherapyCinema TherapyАй бұрын
  • 13:48 I love that little moment between Stoik and Toothless where its a thing of "I don't understand or even really like you and you don't like me, but we both love Hiccup so we're gonna help him in whatever way we can"

    Moira ShoffstallMoira Shoffstall9 ай бұрын
    • hello pfp twin

      AnastasiaAnastasia3 ай бұрын
    • ::laughs in child of divorce::

      Amy KarasAmy Karas4 ай бұрын
    • Yes!!n ✨🕺

      HatHat4 ай бұрын
  • "They killed hundreds of us!" "And we've killed thousands of them!" hits with a weight only children's animated movies can manage

    Twin Stars SystemTwin Stars System10 ай бұрын
    • @Amy S ... now i wanna cry 😭

      leo mcshizzle #PJOCastDeservesRespectleo mcshizzle #PJOCastDeservesRespectАй бұрын
    • What is scary about that line is how many times has it been said but not heard just like with Stoik? Animals, humans, civilizations... how many times throughout history were we blinded by hate and vengeance and ignored the reality and the possibilities? How many times will it continue to happen?

      Anime HuntressAnime HuntressАй бұрын
    • ​@EmberFlower I'm genuinely curious what your parents thoughts are on the war currently in Ukraine. Basically if they think the same, they've realized you've been right, or if their views have only gotten stronger.

      KatKat2 ай бұрын
    • That's what happens when you have a movie written , directed, cast, and acted by people who give a shit about the movie

      Ryan RadfordRyan Radford2 ай бұрын
    • @EmberFlower damn not sure if that aged really really- damn.

      ambergianelloambergianello3 ай бұрын
  • When you said "we don't necessarily honor our parents through obedience" that hit me way harder then I expected and I often feel like I don't make my parents proud or I'm not enough of what my parents want because I can't do things in the way they want me too and my parents are incredible they just can't always see the ways I struggle so they don't understand but God that hurt

    Lunarmy 13Lunarmy 138 ай бұрын
    • my dad only wants obedience for him no obedience means no respect 😢 this shouldn't be equal

      EmilaEmilaАй бұрын
    • I can relate since I have never had and never will have that special relationship with my own. I love them both and respect them so much but just hurts. Thank you KZworld Dad's!

      Abby XiongAbby XiongАй бұрын
    • I’m not a parent myself but I am a camp counselor, so I’m in a position of taking care of children. In my experience, I feel more pride when I see my campers succeeding on their own rather than following everything I say

      Normal HumanNormal HumanАй бұрын
    • I never felt I ever was good enough. I hear you. Decades later the Holy Spirit told me I was respecting my father by staying away from him. That made me stop and think. There's different ways of honoring somebody and when they're toxic it might not be by slapping on the convivial mask one more time and attending yet another family delusional gathering. Just saying....

      Jeanne HaesslerJeanne HaesslerАй бұрын
    • i dont have childeren but i have a little brother that 18 year younger than me and i can safely say i become more proud when he done good stuff without just following my orders.

      Ender ElohimEnder Elohim3 ай бұрын
  • 22:37 the fact that after his dad's death, Hiccup's started braiding his hair just like his Stoick braided his beard gets me every time. If you look closely, he's just started sprouting peach fuzz around the jawline, so the hair braid is b/c he can't yet grow a beard ;-; EDIT: aaaand 26:22 made me burst into tears. Thanks, Dads.

    BeautyBotBeautyBot8 ай бұрын
    • But he had the braids before Stoic died

      Jolly QuinnJolly Quinn12 күн бұрын
    • In viking culture when the woman braids the mans hair thats something that soon to be married people would do, like claiming a man almost.. but its a sign of love, so seeing astrid do that to him makes sense.

      ahahahahahahahahahahahahah,ahahahahahahahahahahahahah,3 ай бұрын
    • @Lee G. Cute!!

      HatHat3 ай бұрын
    • Interesting interpretation but he had those braids before that shot. During Astrids and Hiccups first scene together she braids the second one into his hair.

      Lee G.Lee G.3 ай бұрын
    • @Eric Choinière I'm pretty sure she did braid his hair in that scene. His hair is just so short that it doesn't take very long to braid.

      CairreanCairrean4 ай бұрын
  • Also, Stoic and Hiccup's relationship isn't the one that is amazingly portrayed in this series, I (and a lot of people) think Hiccup and Astrid's relationship is one of the most healthy, realistic and exemplary romances I've seen in a while, mostly when you think this is a cartoon that will be seen by people from all ages who could learn a thing or two from them.

    Lady LynxLady Lynx9 ай бұрын
    • They do the "opposites attract" trope right. The way they balance each other out is genuine, gentle, and based on mutual respect, with no hierarchy of whose flaws are "better". A true partnership where both of them genuinely like each other. It's so nice for the romantic interest to be neither the focus nor the hindrance of the overall mission. They are both fully formed characters with depth. She isn't a 2 dimensional character who piggybacks on his fight. She has her own goals and motivations that evolved to a path that organically aligned with his.

      Nana MashNana Mash2 ай бұрын
    • @Unicorn Lyfie yes

      Sahara HowellSahara Howell3 ай бұрын
    • @Sahara Howell yea they got together in race to the edge. But im just saying their one scene in the second movie alone even out of context is enough to display a healthy relationship

      Unicorn LyfieUnicorn Lyfie3 ай бұрын
    • @Unicorn Lyfie they got together during the series in between the first and second movie

      Sahara HowellSahara Howell3 ай бұрын
    • Bruh the fact that something I regularly say is they are the Bakugou and Deku of HTTYD means their relationship is a little strange lmao….

      Sahara HowellSahara Howell3 ай бұрын
  • I'd say toothless actually breaks the "everything is a dog" for animals in animation. There are some very tiny bits there, but dragons are super catlike in this series. so "everything is a dog, unless it's a cat"

    M GormleyM Gormley3 ай бұрын
  • As a disabled person I loved how they had a disabled protagonist. Especially the dragon being still something beautiful, amazing and valued for its skills with a disability. It’s also not shoved in people’s faces they are just there as we are in life.

    ChronicallyKiraChronicallyKira10 ай бұрын
    • I’m not disabled, but the fact that I honestly forgot he didn’t have a leg hit me differently because it’s not a huge spectacle. Every time disney releases a new movie, the fact that the protagonist is asian or a poc is a big deal and I know it’s not the same as being disabled but I think it really speaks on how quality this movie is.

      HotMesdHotMesdАй бұрын
    • ohhh so that’s why i am obsessed with this franchise… im disabled and relate to the main character

      otheraccotheracc2 ай бұрын
    • I’m not disabled myself but I always liked how I’m the show either hiccups or toothlesses disability came up occasionally like toothless can’t fly and they had to get around that or hiccups leg coming off or breaking they mainly showed this in the two series but it was cool how it was never really like a major “omg this person is incompetent how are we gonna work around this”

      BeansBeans8 ай бұрын
    • ​@Josh Gellis I mean it shouldn't be surprising; that's just how real disabled people are. but it is nonetheless. it's so rare to see disabled people on screen just being people, much less being so popular and influential

      Twin Stars SystemTwin Stars System9 ай бұрын
    • Agreed.👌🏻There really are times I forget Hiccup lost one of his legs. He just carries himself and seamlessly acts as though he hasn’t.

      Josh GellisJosh Gellis9 ай бұрын
  • You two really helped me out here. I'm trying to have a better relationship with my 5 yo, but we're so different. I'm focused, goal-oriented and he is a dreamer. That leads to a lot of conflicts and I'm trying to relax, but it's very hard and often I'm very unhappy with myself as a mom. This episode helped me understand a couple of things. Thanks.

    The Dark SideThe Dark Side3 ай бұрын
    • I think as long you will see a difference it probably will be fine because there will be dialogue ,me and my dad there never was a dialogu ,is only him talking never listen ....he never tried to see the difference

      EmilaEmilaАй бұрын
    • Before you worry too much about your little one, remember that it's the kids who are dreamers that grow into adults with enough imagination and creative talent to create beautiful artworks and stories like this one. There would be no How to Train Your Dragon without any dreamers 😊

      N HN HАй бұрын
    • Hmmm. One thing to keep in mind is that all children are dreamers, they have nothing else to be. Keep on reinforcing positive goal-oriented behavior, but also encourage his dreams(within reality). Developing openness of mind with consciousness, and still helping them learn discernment between realistic expectations, and unattainable goals, is incredibly hard. But creativity and exploration is at its height while they’re still learning about the world around them, preserving that is important. But so is teaching the importance of a healthy “work ethic”, which should develop as he enters puberty. Ive been kind of successful with my daughter. Reinforcing reality where appropriate whilst simultaneously broadening the things she can learn about, and encouraging her to explore. So far, Im lucky that she is super intelligent and she just started puberty.

      longwing detrainlongwing detrainАй бұрын
  • I’m just noticing now that that moment when Hiccup’s mom went up to him to comfort him after his dad’s death, her hand was going towards his shoulder at first, but hesitates and goes towards his head instead to comfort him. To me that was his mom realizing that at that moment she needed to comfort him not as a warrior or even an adult but instead as a loving and understanding mother. Thats hits me hard.

    B GrnB Grn6 ай бұрын
  • 9:26 “He was just protecting me. He’s not dangerous.” and “They’ve killed hundreds of us!” “And we’ve killed thousands of them!” This is the exact thing that happens with some abused animals. They fight because they’re scared. As a child I didn’t realize this but after going back and watching them a few years ago I realized that. The dragons were just scared and things were killing them so they killed back.

    Celestial KhaosCelestial Khaos8 ай бұрын
    • Well, they were killing them because they were stealing their sheep

      A guy on the internetA guy on the internetАй бұрын
    • The Cycle of Violence is always one heck of a theme.

      Dashiell GillinghamDashiell GillinghamАй бұрын
  • Toothless gives me more of a cat vibes since he’s a little sassy and just the whole interaction the first time that him and hiccup met especially the part where he was coming up to eat the fish out of hiccups hand

    Emma AllbrightEmma Allbright5 ай бұрын
    • "a little sassy" Understatement of the century

      Alexandra !Alexandra !5 күн бұрын
    • that's because a lot of his animations was based off a cat

      Essien BarutiEssien Baruti15 күн бұрын
  • "I'm proud of you son..." "You just gestured to all of me..." That is one amazing turnaround

    Nara FeralinaNara Feralina10 ай бұрын
    • Omg lmaoo yes!!

      HatHat4 ай бұрын
    • The ironic echo, the payoff, the way he turned his own words on their head to show love and appreciation to his son in way that is apologetic, while it also builds him up where he used to tear him down. That's what I call incredible writing.

      Fire-Heart the WolfFire-Heart the Wolf10 ай бұрын
    • I know. I felt it like a full body tingle at that turnaround. It was beautiful.

      TIFFANY PERSAUDTIFFANY PERSAUD10 ай бұрын
  • "I'm so proud of you" is the last thing my father said to me before he passed and it really does mean everything to me. He and I had our differences but we generally got along and having that be the last thing he said to me has helped me keep going since in so many ways.

    Graham WGraham W9 ай бұрын
  • I feel that in this movie what it's amazing it's the representation of a romantic relationship. Seeing Astrid and Hiccup felt very real: they meesed with each other, they joked, they fought, they supported each other... and you can see phisically how much they mean for each other. It was amazing.

    Alba ÁlvarezAlba Álvarez8 ай бұрын
    • @Cocky Cookie But I also think this is part of growing up. Realizing you don't have to look masculine to be powerful. I don't think Astrid is any less brave in the last movie than she is in the first one. I do see her more relaxed, like she has nothing to prove anymore, she has her place and everyone knows how capable she is. It felt realistic, I don't know.

      Alba ÁlvarezAlba ÁlvarezАй бұрын
    • Until Astrid yeeted her entire personality (stubborn, independent, strong, kinda tomboy really) and became the perfect girly wife (tm). Compare how she sits and stands in the first vs the other movies. Manspread/powerstance to crossed legs and cocked hip.

      Cocky CookieCocky CookieАй бұрын
  • When you were talking about you’re dad saying he’s proud of you and how that means the world to you, and then you said “And some of you will never have that”. Shit dude brought me to tears, that hit me like a truck. And I don’t cry often either. I had an abusive father, and he’s not in my life anymore but the weird thing is I’ve never been bothered by people having a good relationships with their dad. Like I don’t get jealous or feel bad because I’ll never have that, but like shit dude, the way you delivered it. Anyway, I’m very happy I get you two as my dads now, you’ll be much better than the last one :)

    PeanutPeanutАй бұрын
  • I do see that as a look of "I made a mistake" because I see so much of myself and my Dad in Hiccup and Stoick. For context, my dad grew up in a military family, his Dad was a Captain in the Coast Guard, moved around constantly in his childhood/teenage life, bullied in school/fights in the schoolyard, was the oldest so he had nobody to really lean on, joined the Army after high school, made it into Special Forces, made it all the way to 1st Lieutenant, was deployed all over the world, watched friends die and had to leave their bodies behind, he only retired when he was told to by his CO because his wife was pregnant with his 2nd child. His entire life (as least to me) was to be defined by hardship, duty, and a "get sh*t done mentality.". He has always been one to take charge and push forward onto the next thing because it needs to get done. That applied to me too, school, awards, Boy Scouts, etc. I was ok with this until High School where I was straining under it, I inherited his "take no prisoners" attitude when it came to solving problems and this conflicted with what he thought was best for me. You see, I got REALLY good at programming in High School and wanted to study Game Development at college on top of me being really fed up with him becoming "The Lieutenant" at any given point. My dad however, wanted a more computer science focused degree for me. This came out of a place of Love for him wanting me to succeed, but it manifested itself into him being involved in every aspect of the college hunting experience. These differences in goals as well as similarities in personalities led to some really nasty fights, with name callings, hateful things said in the moment, and even threats of physical violence,(the only reason I didn't try to throw a punch was I knew he would win, it was that bad.). I took a full on intervention by the rest of the family to have us sit down and talk it out. He didn't really hate me or my choices at all, he just didn't want me to have the same life of pain and hardship that he had, I wanted to get the most out of my life as I saw fit. In that space, we both just put all of our cards on the cards on the table, we both regretted and apologized for every hurtful thing we ever said and both expressed that we. We eventually compromised in that Game Development can be used in non-gaming settings, and we dreamt up ideas for simulators that can help people in all sorts of careers and walks of life. We still do butt heads occasionally, but we both attribute that to being WAY too similar to each other and we get fed up with each-other's BS , but sometimes he can read exactly how I am feeling and does the best he can to make me feel better and I love him for it, because I know he is the type of person that if he can throw himself at a problem and take care of it, then by God he's going to do it. I can see the parallel between my Dad and Stoick incredibly well, their both men in roles driven by duty and by a need to get things done, they both hate that they say these hurtful things but move on because that's what is required of them. That staggered step means so much to me because that's the first time we seeing Stoick being wounded by something. That's why I don't hold anything against my Dad because I now know that is what happened after every fight, both of us felt like that, but with that shared "Get crap done" mentality, we moved on and decided that it was just gonna be that way. To this day, I still see my Dad as my role model, not because he is perfect, rather because he isn't. He has a nasty temper; but doesn't let it control him, he pushes past the small problems in order to take care of the big ones, he's hard on me because he's even harder on himself, I've had a good life; only because he's fought to make sure mine is nothing like his was, and when push comes to shove he will drop everything to take care of me.

    Brian RooneyBrian Rooney5 ай бұрын
  • When Alan said the part about honoring your parents I immediately thought of Mulan. She disobeyed her parents and ended up honoring them more than she ever could have by staying.

    Luce LiefsoensLuce Liefsoens10 ай бұрын
    • Makes me think of the song, Second Chance from Shinedown.

      CarolynCarolyn6 ай бұрын
    • That's not an excuse to disobey your parents

      Big birdBig bird7 ай бұрын
    • @The Lord of luncheon Oh poor you.

      Viktoriya SerebryakovViktoriya Serebryakov8 ай бұрын
    • Because she didn't disobey THEM she disobeyed tradition to protect them

      Carolyn S.Carolyn S.8 ай бұрын
    • Honouring your parents can also work through being yourself and making your own choices but taking everything they taught you, with you

      Andor RadnaiAndor Radnai9 ай бұрын
  • I knew someone who constantly said "I'm only human, what do you expect?" After about 100 times of hearing this in just a few months, I flipped. "Being human means you have the ability to learn from your mistakes and stop being such an ass!" --paraphrasing. It's been over 7 years. I agree, learning why what you did was wrong and changing your behavior is the best apology.

    Jacquelyn SmithJacquelyn Smith7 ай бұрын
  • I was expecting this to be boring and "talk at you" kind of commentary, especially with my favorite animated film series ever, but WOW have I been missing out! It even got REAL and I teared up. Great film commentary meets psychological insight? INSTANTLY SUBSCRIBED

    Eva KEva K9 ай бұрын
  • I would love to see your analysis on Hiccup and Astrid's relationship. Me and my GF love this series because she is definitely an Astrid and I am 100% a Hiccup XD.

    Tom HubbardTom Hubbard9 ай бұрын
    • She hits you a lot?

      Gentlemanly GeekyGentlemanly Geeky22 күн бұрын
  • 16:10 I remember when my best friend said that if they ever had lgbtqia+ children, they would beat them and throw them out of the house. It was a short conversation, about 4 years ago but I cried so many times because that, sometimes I still do. I was scared that my friend was going to dump me, to not be my friend anymore the moment they realized I wasn't straight. At that time their parents and they were already shifting towards that because I talked about stuff that they didn't agree with, and I tried to teach my friend that people who aren't like them are also people. One of my other close friends still has that mindset. But around a year ago we were having a conversation and they said they belived that lgbtqia+ are people, that they have rights like any other person but that they have a choice to be lgbtqia+ and that they shouldn't necessarily be 'like that'. It was so much progress that I almost cried. I came out to my friend in that moment, (it wasn't exactly a secret but it wasn't known either at that point) and I said 'I was scared to tell you because of that thing you said a few years ago... I know it's silly, but I still remember it' and they apologized! They said it was a very dumb view, that they're sorry, and that they still don't completely understand but they're trying. And the fact that I saw the progress, that I knew they were trying that's why that apology ment so much to me. It wasn't because they didn't mean to make me upset, it was because they cared and are actively trying to make it right.

    RobinRobin10 ай бұрын
  • The positive masculinity in this channel is exactly what the world needs more of 🥰

    Just JenJust Jen10 ай бұрын
    • YES.

      ILouILou8 ай бұрын
    • Yes!

      MindseasMindseas9 ай бұрын
    • @Ēāřťhłīňğ Sometimes yeah sometimes not

      DudeDude10 ай бұрын
    • Well i mean there are movies that have positive roles of masculinity .

      DudeDude10 ай бұрын
    • @Maud yes this was just a compliment to the guys and how well they model said positive masculinity

      Just JenJust Jen10 ай бұрын
  • As a disabled person, I feel like Hiccup is one of the best examples of casual representation

    happy.hybridhappy.hybrid10 ай бұрын
  • I'm running out of new ways to express how thankful and appreciative I am of you both, and for this channel. Thank you, #KZworldDads. You make me, and my life, better. And the amount of great conversations with people, the connections these videos have formed between us is beyond me to describe in words. You're a true inspiration to me

    MindseasMindseas9 ай бұрын
  • I was just telling my therapist how I never get "I love you" or "I'm proud of you" from my parents so getting it from you guys here really hit me, thanks for making me cry KZworld Dads.

    JC HolmanationJC HolmanationАй бұрын
    • You're so welcome. Thanks for watching!

      Cinema TherapyCinema TherapyАй бұрын
  • 26:15: "Your KZworld Dads are very proud of you and we love you". Thank you for bringing up those who don't have parents to say "I'm proud of you". I love both of you. Both of you make me so happy watching these movies with you guys, and the comments you make.

    QueenOfLaughterQueenOfLaughter8 ай бұрын
  • As a kid, I was really impressed by the decision to have Hiccup lose a leg be in a children's movie produced by Dreamworks. It's more realistic this way, and creates an interesting parallel to Toothless.

    Trina QTrina Q10 ай бұрын
    • @ambergianello so many story-tellers make the disability a "personality trait". One thing I've learned from therapy is my fucked-up-ness is because I'm human not because I'm disabled. They treat Hiccup as human which is what we all want.

      Cath ECath E3 ай бұрын
    • @Cath E I also like that it’s not pointed right out and like “omg your leg” and that he’s straightforward with his life with a disability. Like it doesn’t become a crutch for the movie (I am having difficulty explaining what I mean)

      ambergianelloambergianello3 ай бұрын
    • @Starr Smith black washing or LGBTQ+ washing is a thing, it’s a tactic by corporations to ensure the movie or show has wide appeal and is seen as virtuous but in reality it’s just to squeeze more money out of people. If you need people on screen to be just like you to relate to them or learn something, you’re the one with the problem. Ellen Ripley is still an icon to guys, Aragorn can still be an icon or hero to women. We don’t need more representation, we need more integration. White people need more black idols, black people need more white idols, men need more female role models, women need more male role models. Caring more about representation than writing a good film, ruins the film. If it doesn’t make sense in the plot or mean anything in the grand scheme of things then it’s shoved in there to people please and not because it makes sense or is representative. Films with good messages transcend race or gender. It’s often the dumb films that feel the need to minimise everything and cater to only one specific type of person. I don’t give a shit who is in a film, I don’t think any gender or race or group should be shunned and restricted from being in films, but I don’t think they should be corporations tokens to spend in movies so other virtuous idiots can go and watch it and pretend they’re virtuous themselves. And it has happened, people call Get Out and Black Panther masterpieces because otherwise people will call them racist. Wanna see a film that cares about black people in America without doing it to purely make money, go watch Boyz in the Hood or BlacKKKlansman. I am absolutely telling you that Hiccup’s disability works specifically because the filmmakers did not give two seconds thought to shoving representation into their film.

      SqyshSqysh3 ай бұрын
    • @Sqysh people wanting better representation aren’t at all narcissistic. Though I think people who directly are against them getting proper representation are.

      Starr SmithStarr Smith3 ай бұрын
    • @Starr Smith …no see this is the problem, representation is not the issue. If people keep needing absolute copies of themselves to feel represented, then how are they ever going to aspire to anything? When they made that decision, it’s not because they cared that people were going to complain that there isn’t enough disabled representation. The plot isn’t about his disability so it’s nothing to do with giving up or not, representation to pander to sensitive narcissists is not a good thing, stop cheering it on like it’s healthy.

      SqyshSqysh3 ай бұрын
  • The way you guys closed this, with saying that you're proud of your audience, that really speaks to me. I'm a member of the LGBT+ and a lot of us in this community don't really get to hear that from a father figure. It's such an issue within my community that we named our movement after it, PRIDE, and at many PRIDE events you'll actually see older men (and some women) with a sign or wearing a shirt stating that they're a supportive parental figure, offering hugs and words of affirmation. It's beautiful to see, and so tragic that it's necessary. So, just to close this off, if anyone reading this hasn't heard this recently, I'm proud of you.

    Zack ScrogginsZack Scroggins9 ай бұрын
  • My dad and I couldn't have been more opposite. He was into sports and fishing and I tried every sport I could, baseball, soccer, basketball, though never football, which always felt to brutal to me. I on the other hand was into the Arts, Drawing, painting, writing, acting, music. However one of the big things we clashed over was my grades. I had a lot of problems when it came to doing homework. I always did well on tests, but since homework counted for so much of my grades, they always suffered. And of course they couldn't just count my test grades because that "wouldn't be fair to the other students." Anyway, when my parents eventually divorced, and my dad got remarried, he found out his step-son had ADD. Once he heard about all the symptoms of that, he thought back to all the issues I'd always had in school and put 2 and 2 together. He came to me and apologized for all the grief he'd given me over the years about it, and we both broke down and cried over it. After that I think my dad accepted all our differences and started to see me in a different light. This movie has always set something off in me about my relationship with him, and that scene where Stoic says he's proud of Hiccup always brings out the water-works in me.

    Bob SwansonBob Swanson9 ай бұрын
  • 1:35 as a dad, this is also sometimes the relationship I have with my kids. I always feel like if I don't do it, it won't get done. As I'm struggling to cope with the burnout from doing work/chores like 12-14h/day 6ish days a week, it's incredibly draining when a child suddenly drops yet another problem in my lap that I have to solve. I REGULARLY feel like Luisa from Encanto. I even had the same eye twitch for several months prior to watching Encanto for the first time.

    RECLessRECLess3 ай бұрын
  • I just finished rewatching the first HTTYD movie and I noticed that at the end, when the credits roll, the voice actors' names appear beside their dragon. So the name of Hiccup's VA, Jay Baruchel, appears on screen next to a drawing of Toothless. Same goes for the other main chacters. When it comes to Gerard Butler's name (Stoick's VA), curiosly enough, it appears beside the big dragon - the "queen bee" of the dragons nest. So maybe the terrible dragon was the equivalent of Stoick, of how he was leading the village. Maybe the dragon's death means the death of Stoick's previous beliefs and a paradigm shift. Or maybe this is too much reaching based only on the credits and a sketch.

    M MM M4 ай бұрын
  • "Some people are too stuck in their ways of thinking to see the incredible person in front of them." This quote brought tears to my eyes, thanks so much for the validation, Jonathan and Alan, our KZworld dads!

    Trina QTrina Q10 ай бұрын
    • Feel hugged y'all. I can relate on so many levels and I'm just proud of us all. Thanks for being here, existing, thriving and living. ❤️

      ChibiChibi10 ай бұрын
    • This episode made me a crying mess...

      StrawberryBlueFoxStrawberryBlueFox10 ай бұрын
    • @Trina Q Hahaha. You too! 😁 See you soon under some other video, I assume 😄

      EFoxKitsuneEFoxKitsune10 ай бұрын
    • @EFoxKitsune Thank you so much, I'm delighted that I make you smile. It's great to bump into another like minded KZworldr in these quarters, great minds certainly think alike! Take care! 😘

      Trina QTrina Q10 ай бұрын
    • Hey Trina Q, just wanna say, I see you _everywhere_ lol. Seems like we follow a lot of the same stuff on youtube. At first it was kind of uncanny; at this point I almost look for you in the comments lol, and when I see your name there, it makes me smile. Idk, haha. It's good knowing you're still around. Take care! Hope you're doing well. Sincerely, a fellow internet stranger

      EFoxKitsuneEFoxKitsune10 ай бұрын
  • You can hear the pain in Stoick’s voice when he says “You’re not my son”

    Toro NomokoToro Nomoko5 ай бұрын
  • At 26:48 I started sobbing. I lost my father a few months ago (I'm 13) and during the time he was alive, he never told me that he's proud of me. I've never really been told that anyone is proud of me, so hearing Alan and Jonathan saying that they're proud of me (and the rest of the veiwers) made me cry, cause I've been seeking the approval of anyone that's important to me. So, hearing that two figures that I look up to saying they're proud of me makes me cry, cause I finally got the feeling of recognition that I try so hard everyday just to be able to get myself to do simple tasks. Thank you Jonathan/Alan for saying that you guys are proud of me (us.) Edit: The scene of Stoick's funeral hits me so hard, cause Stoick reminds me of my dad so much.

    No uNo u6 ай бұрын
    • Sending my love to you ❤️

      Thairin KhudrThairin KhudrАй бұрын
  • I feel conflicted about how quickly they decided to kill the big dragon at the end, and the lack of any remorse. I thought the message of compassion despite differing appearances was so beautiful. I loved the moment that Hiccup realises that the dragons also feel fear and are very much the same as humans. But it seems like that realisation just goes away towards the end of the film. I’m sure that the big dragon was also afraid for its life at the end, but that angle was completely missed and it seems that the characters went straight to just objectifying and demonising it. 🤔it’s obviously difficult to do in a kids film which requires a resolution to the story, but I wish the message would have been more consistently applied.

    AuspiciousAuspicious7 ай бұрын
    • You have a point with "consistency" but the way I saw it was that, in real life, sometimes dangers are just unnegotiable or there was no time to negotiate otherwise it could seriously wreck something permanently.

      Thairin KhudrThairin KhudrАй бұрын
    • Weeeeeeeell. Violent tyranny can sometimes only be overthrown by force. Difficult point though, I agree, but I think without an "objective evil" forcing the dragons' hand (or claws), the human-dragon conflict issue would have become way too complex to deal with. And, you know, it's still a fantasy story, so hero's gotta slay the dragon! :D

      Leo Li.Leo Li.Ай бұрын
  • "Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with". I saw HTTYD 2 as Stoic's chance to be right. Hiccup is shown to have the ability to change hearts and minds, in both the movies and the TV series, but he learned the hard way that you can't change everyone.

    Infernal IrisInfernal Iris4 ай бұрын
  • I am obsessed with hiccup as a character. He is highly intelligent and engineering- minded but what is featured is his compassion. I wish more of the “smart” characters were written to be multifaceted like this. (Also he reminds me so much of sokka from atla)

    Riley WilliamsonRiley Williamson10 ай бұрын
    • He is my first love, literally.

      Mlk HMlk H6 ай бұрын
    • @Dustin Edwards He's from the show Avatar the Last Airbender, one of 4 or 6 main characters, depending on how you count. Could also be 7. Whatever, point is he's part of a really great group in a really great show with a really great soundtrack, amazing plot, amazing worldbuilding, includes the best redemption arc in history, tackles massive real world issues, ok I'm going to stop rambling now, it's on Netflix and there's half a million video essays about the show if you're interested

      Wolfish PotatoWolfish Potato8 ай бұрын
    • Yes and I love his humour and the way he speaks like it just makes him seem super smart but also relatable

      BeansBeans8 ай бұрын
    • ​@Dustin Edwards Sokka is not exactly protagonist but he's still a great relatable and enjoyable character.

      Zannis ????Zannis ????8 ай бұрын
    • I don’t see the Sokka thing, but I agree with everything else lol 😂

      Prior2PopularPrior2Popular9 ай бұрын
  • Okay as an animator I'm going to explain it to you trying to give an animal a made-up animal emotions is way harder than getting the human face correct because at least at the human face we do know what the body language is but with animals we either have to make it up and hope people catch on or we have to base it off another animal and as it happens we can generally gauge what a dog's emotion is by how it moves and the sounds it makes same with cats so those are the two most often used also with a real animal we can see them move and have something real to base it off of dragons don't actually exist so we don't have much to base it off of when we actually animate stuff like that

    the random pineapplethe random pineapple9 ай бұрын
  • oof this is my first video i’ve seen from this channel and i did NOT expect to cry from a httyd react video :’) thank you new youtube dads, really hit the spot

    Avi SivilsAvi Sivils9 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for subbing! And for being our KZworld spawn. We shall cherish you :)

      Cinema TherapyCinema Therapy9 ай бұрын
  • Why did the ending hurt me? We as your KZworld dads are proud of you. Me, 26 year old woman & teacher who was considered as felt as the unwanted & disappointment child and has always wanted to feel accepted by my parents: *sobbing uncontrollably* thank you😭😭😭😭 I really needed to hear that.

    parmeila dheviparmeila dhevi8 ай бұрын
  • the whole "you think youve changed" thing hit home i grew up with my mother who was a narcissist and gaslighted me she started going to therapy and some aspects did change but the worst ones stayed no matter how many times she told herself they were gone i still saw them and i told her i said "You talk about how youve changed but you are still the same woman you were when i was a kid" and she was silent after that it hit her hard i wasnt trying to be mean or rude just honest and i see her trying to change but you cant change if you dont know whats wrong

    leo mcshizzle #PJOCastDeservesRespectleo mcshizzle #PJOCastDeservesRespectАй бұрын
  • "Authority without consent is just tyranny" You got me, guys. I am not a crier, and I didn't cry on previous episodes, but you got me there.

    KuroinokitsuneKuroinokitsune10 ай бұрын
    • @Silver Salmon a child can't give consent

      Rebecca ConlonRebecca ConlonАй бұрын
    • A child can not give consent, legally and by definition to what a child is...

      Rebecca ConlonRebecca ConlonАй бұрын
    • Same here. This entire episode has brought me to tears because of how relatable it is. Stoic and Hiccup are my mother and myself. It's constant friction, constant conflict. I'm not who she wants me to be, who and what she _thinks_ that I _should_ be. Essentially, I'm not another her, and that is a neverending conflict, because I'm constantly trying to be _myself._ Hearing a therapist go through this relationship and realizing that it _is_ abuse, has made me think that relating to this situation is probably why the HTTYD trilogy is one of my favorites, even in adulthood.

      Go Away, I'm ReadingGo Away, I'm ReadingАй бұрын
    • @Alexandra R. I guess..I am pretty cold person to begin with;)

      KuroinokitsuneKuroinokitsune8 ай бұрын
    • How do you do that. They make me cry ALL the time!

      Alexandra R.Alexandra R.8 ай бұрын
  • Damn when they said "we're proud of you " that really hit me because I've never had a father figure and when I have they always leave my life. So that really cut me deep.

    [as][as]3 ай бұрын
  • Out of all your videos, this is the one I relate to the most. I actually cried for the first time in quite a while after finishing this. This has helped so much, even though I didn't know I needed it. Thank you.

    Elias KiserElias KiserАй бұрын
    • Wow, thank you!

      Cinema TherapyCinema TherapyАй бұрын
  • By far one of the absolute best scores of any movie I have ever heard. I literally listen to the score as I’m driving in the car. Test Drive when it hits the big part legitimately makes me cry

    Megan FultzMegan Fultz3 ай бұрын
  • Something else important about Stoick in the first movie I think is that he wants to find the nest to destroy it so the dragons would leave, it's not like he wants to go out and exterminate every single one of them or kill needlessly

    DonutsDonuts3 ай бұрын
  • All I'm hearing is what I've already known: This movie is a *masterpiece.* This movie series is easily my absolute favorite movie series, let alone animated movie series. Kung Fu Panda comes up as a close 2nd, for me.

    MiasimonMiasimon9 ай бұрын
  • Jon talking about how some people won't hear their fathers say "I'm proud of you" almost made me tear up, primarily due to the fact that my own father was so manipulative and narcissistic that he neglected me emotionally ( to the point where it feels like I did not have a father ) and I never really felt the emotional need to connect with him since he was so negative so I lost that father figure kind of bond due to his failings as a parent and my lack of ability to forgive

    Radio WhalesRadio Whales7 ай бұрын
  • Great!! It's almost like therapy watching your reaction and assessment of the characters. Well done!

    mkphillymkphilly3 ай бұрын
  • I think my favourite quote is from hiccups mother when she said “You have the heart of a chief and the soul of a dragon” it makes me feel better about my life knowing my passion and what I love might not work with who I am as a person straight away but I can work on who I am to who I want to be . Httyd is one of my favourite story’s because of the subtle life messages it has .

    Dani DuckDani Duck4 ай бұрын
  • One thing I particularly like about httyd2 is that when Stoic dies, it's immediate. There is no heartfelt last moments speech, there isn't any last apologies or confessions or anything like that. It's just abrupt and sudden, and we the audience know there's a million things that could've and should've been said between Hiccup and Stoic, but they aren't able to. I feel like it just makes that scene hit so much harder

    Shilo MageeShilo Magee10 ай бұрын
    • it hurt because my aunt died recently she was like my mom and i never got to give her a hug...

      leo mcshizzle #PJOCastDeservesRespectleo mcshizzle #PJOCastDeservesRespectАй бұрын
    • Absolutely agreed. In movies, often when a character the protagonist cares about is about to die, there will be several death flags hinting towards their inevitable end. In real life though, it just happens. Nothing will ever prepare you for it.

      Anis NAnis N3 ай бұрын
    • This so many times yes. My grandma and my stepdad both passed within the last 2 years and I didn't get to say goodbye to either of them. Movies, TV, Books, and every other storytelling medium needs to portray the suddenness of death more seriously in my opinion. There is no time for saying important things later to loved ones. related, but different complaint: The 2 minute scene where the hero says goodbye to his lifelong friend or lover in the middle of a fight is the stupidest shit and repeats over and over again. Especially in a fight there is no time to say goodbye. Your friend dies and you have to focus even harder on survival because one fewer ally is alive.

      Ryan Ryan "Raucous Hearthstone"3 ай бұрын
    • This actually reminds me of perhaps my favorite death (???), Joyce Summers, in Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Immediately when it starts to set in that her mother isn't unconscious, Buffy reverts to her child, just muttering "Mommy?" and we get these very dissonant alternations between silence, high ringing, and muffled dialogue for much of the episode. It sold that headspace of observing and not participating, barely present, yet trapped. Very excellent cinematography that fully utilized "less is more."

      Eric SiemienczukEric Siemienczuk3 ай бұрын
    • @Rob Alexander Yeah it’s a terrible but common thing that often times we can’t say everything we want to our loved ones before they die. I liked the movies representation of that

      Levi DLevi D4 ай бұрын
  • Honestly, hearing "I'm proud of you" doesn't even elicit much of a reaction from me anymore. Not from strangers not from friends not from idols not from family. I guess spending so much time as a kid looking for validation and then realising that words of appreciation from most people I knew were false or meaningless. I respect my 'KZworld Dads' (lmao) but I can't say I'm happy about your words of appreciation without lying. To elaborate to those who want to know, I have Asian parents who are Christian. As such, there were high expectations academically, in sports, in everything I do. Everything was fine at first, I kept up, they were proud. I was satisfied that my efforts to impress were appreciated. As I grew older, things became a little rockier. I was beginning to fall behind. My efforts at trying to be independent were seen as disobedience. I began to see myself less as a Christian and more of a pagan. I was starting to identify as a member of the lgbtq+ community. I had support amongst peers, friends, heck even my Christian College was accepting of lgbtq+. They even collaborated with a student who was trans and adjusted everything from names and pronouns to their uniform and the bathrooms they used. I had support in all environments but with my family. The expectations got higher. They were against trans people, bisexuals, pans, everyone but gay and lesbian people to a very small extent. I couldn't tell them I was trans AND gay. I couldn't open up about being pagan. I was no good with words spoken aloud. They misunderstood anything I wrote. They were so caught up in what they wanted me to be, I had no room to explore what I felt comfortable in. Who I was, where I belong. Parts of me were unknown and undiscovered because of this perfect idealistic unachievable me that was forced upon me the moment I was born. I wasn't allowed to have one flaw. I wasn't allowed to have differences. Any "freedom" was heavily monitored. So much so, I grew paranoid of everything. My ability to sense my surroundings through touch, smell and sound went into overdrive. I could feel it when people were watching me behind my back. I hallucinated voices. I couldn't even see someone about my problems. Every action was supervised to the tiniest movement, every intent even non-existent ones. Even having the slightest chance of being "abnormal" as they called it was not allowed. To this day, I still haven't seen anyone about my problems. I can't when the impression is still haunting me. I have issues connecting since, at some point, I just trying. I still feel as though they are somewhere watching my every move, judging. Talking to a professional about these issues is just something I can't do yet.

    ÆchaoticÆchaotic7 ай бұрын
    • I hope you can heal on your own enough to get the help you clearly need and want. You are as valid as everybody else and even my words don’t hold weight to you, I will hope anyway.

      TerenceTerence2 ай бұрын
  • As a small skinny kid with way too high of expectations against me, I related soooo hard to Hiccup. These films made me realize that the expectations against me are the ones I put against myself, and that only I can decide who I am. Now I don't have a Toothless, but I do have a friend group and DnD. I always believed I was a loner, now I'm going out with my friends and playing table top games and having the best time of my life. These movies really helped. Also, Hiccup got what I had wanted. To see my parents together, happy. Until, like me, his father left his life. My father didn't die, he just moved far away since the divorce.

    Snack_BarSnack_Bar3 ай бұрын
  • I don't know if this would be the right video for it but I think it's a good place for it either way. My family had a fairly strong "don't say it we know" sort of mentality when it came to our affection with each other. With my mom and sort of with my grandma we could casually say that we love each other but only every now and then but with my dad and my other relatives we just never really did. A few years ago my grandmother passed away completely unexpectedly and it was because of someone else, I always have regretted not telling her I loved her enough. So after that I decided that I would just say it, I wouldn't "just let it be known" that I would go out if my way to say it. It took a different amount of time with different relatives but eventually I got to the point where whenever we stop talking (over the phone or if we're visiting each other) we always say that we love each other. No one really questioned it except for my grandpa, the same one who lost my grandma, and he asked me "Why do you do that, I'm not against it I mean I do love you but why did you decide to start doing that?" and I went on to explain how I thought and how I felt and he talked about how when he was a kid and all the other kids they all grew up with that mindset. He told me he doesn't really remember any time his grandparents said that they loved him, he knew they did they just didn't say it cause that was the normal, and we talked about it for some time and at the end of the conversation my grandpa was all for it, he was awkward about it starting out but now we all just do it since if we both know it then there's no reason not to just say it. I've made a lot of stupid decisions in my life but that is probably one of my prouder ones.

    Brandon TuckerBrandon Tucker9 ай бұрын
  • I have a 3 1/2 year old daughter and seeing your videos makes me want to be a better mom and raise her to where she can be the best she can be in life.

    Shywolf 0891Shywolf 08917 ай бұрын
  • As for the second film, it's an interesting reversal where his dad was right - Hiccup couldn't convince Drago and Stoic knew Drago enough to know it wouldn't work. This time around, Hiccup had to learn a valuable lesson about what it means to be chief.

    Natalya DrakeNatalya Drake2 күн бұрын
  • When it comes to the idea of apologizing being more than just the words we use, part of the issues I have with my stepfather came to mind. When it comes to arguments, disagreements, and verbal fights I realized something. The only time that he apologized during or after an emotion driven fight, was sarcastically and in a patronizing manner. I have known him for almost twenty years and cannot think of a single time that he has apologized for getting upset or angering someone else. Usually the opposite happens and he gets extremely defensive and shuts down communication even further. For someone who mostly thinks that the words we use don't matter, he seems almost afraid to use the one that even for a moment implies he might be part of the reason a fight happened.

    Dean AndersonDean Anderson25 күн бұрын
  • 9:30 To me that was a major moment for Hiccup. Cause it's the first time he really stands up to his father. He has disagreed with him before but more in a sniveling and whimpering sort of way. Here he truly puts his foot down and argues with him, looking him directly in the eye.

    marinus18marinus1823 күн бұрын
  • There was a really beautiful scene between Stoic and young Hiccup in the 3rd movie where Stoic opens up about the true relationship he wants between humans and dragons. I was really hoping you guys went over that too. However this was really amazing video and discussion between the relationship between father and son in HTTYD.

    SandySiri366SandySiri3663 ай бұрын
  • "Judaism, Islam and Christianity tells you to honor your parents. But honor doesn't always mean that you have to obey them-" Seriously Jonathan, that hit so hard. Even though I am an orthodox Muslim by birth, I was always the odd one out in my family because I had a more open-minded approach to the world than they did. And so I always doubted whether or not it made me a bad person if I disagreed with the majority's mindset of life, but it's so comforting to hear this from a professional therapist. Thank you, dad 💖

    Maryam AamerMaryam Aamer10 ай бұрын
    • @Anony Mouse

      Dream Bubble ApartmentsDream Bubble Apartments2 ай бұрын
    • I feel the same because my family is also a Muslim and I've also been ostracized by them because of my beliefs or at least they didn't bother to understand me.

      Dream Bubble ApartmentsDream Bubble Apartments2 ай бұрын
    • @Niko woah woah. Just because the guy is atheist doesn't make him morally bankrupt. I met atheists who are angels. Also the parents need to respect their sons decisions not the other way around

      Tony NolaTony Nola3 ай бұрын
    • I don't often leave comments on KZworld, but this original comment compelled me to do so. I grew up in a Mormon based family and was never really able to discover who I was as a person or experiment with different ideas during my high school years because of all the restrictions that the religion has. I'm all for having some regulations because you want your family to be protected, but you don't want to have so many that you feel smothered and that's how I often felt. I couldn't date until I was 16, obviously couldn't do drugs or alcohol or even be around it, and I was very sheltered as well. Religion is okay to use as a tool to help build a foundation, but you don't want to force it down others' throats because that will just push them further away. It was during my high school years that I went through two very traumatic family events that altered my way of thinking forever. I learned that religion, as in life, isn't just black and white; it's all shades of grey and chaotic. It's not all puppies and rainbows, there's a lot of shit to overcome too. All of that and more caused me to basically leave the church and not go back because my faith had been challenged so intensely. Over the years I did try to go back one more time and see if that spark was still there, but I sadly realized later that I was forcing myself to feel something when there was nothing left to feel. You can't force a connection a grow if that connection isn't there or is too frayed to become something more. My mom wasn't happy with my decision and tried to persuade me to go back, so I only went for her. As I said though, there was nothing there anymore, it was gone and it hasn't come back since. I finally stopped going and only up until recently allowed the Sister Missionaries to come over and share a message with me. I finally got fed up with all of it after my mom passed away and church members stopped coming over after it was clear that neither my dad or myself were going to convert, and politely told the Sister Missionaries to not come back until I said I was ready. Thankfully they heeded my request and I haven't from them since. I may go back in the far off future, but if I do, it's going to be on MY terms. Let me be clear on this: if you have a religion and are able to feel supported by said religion, then great, more power to you. I'm not going to knock anyone if they have a religion, I just wanted to share my experience as well.

      Linda AndrewsLinda Andrews3 ай бұрын
    • @Anony Mouse “Assume good intentions and most of the time you’ll be right” - Cinema Therapy. Idk feels like you need to hear that quote

      Bayoán OcasioBayoán Ocasio5 ай бұрын
  • I haven't spoken to my dad in YEARS because he was emotionally abusive, and it was something I needed to do for my own emotional wellbeing. I always say that it's the best decision I ever made. But it still sucks to not have a father figure anymore... So, thanks for being my internet dads. And I'm proud of you guys too!

    MagicalAnimecatMagicalAnimecat9 ай бұрын
  • I really love how you guys analyze stuff and listening / hearing you both enjoy things in the movies puts a big smile on my face. I felt everything you both pointed out in this relationship and its refreshing to hear someone else talk about it ^_^

    Hotaru ShidoshaHotaru ShidoshaАй бұрын
  • I think this is my fav so far. I love the HTTRD series, and your highlights about the relationship should be heard by everyone

    Karen CooperKaren CooperАй бұрын
  • My parents are wonderful, but I can't remember the last time they said they were proud of me. As the "burnt out gifted kid" in the family, and someone seemed to have won the "lottery" of so many mental and emotional struggles, I feel like a disappointment and a failure pretty often. If I could just hear that they're proud of me...

    Ashton PetersonAshton Peterson4 ай бұрын
  • I love how Stoic picks up and holds the axe fine, and says "when you carry this, you carry all of us" then hands it to hiccup and it immediately hits the floor. really nice symbolism there about stoic's responsibility, and how hiccup isn't capable of leading the same way

    Caleb EvansCaleb Evans10 ай бұрын
    • Plus Stoic also helps Hiccup carry that weight when he starts to struggle a bit.

      The Willow TreeThe Willow Tree8 ай бұрын
    • Wow, I never thought of that! Really shows how good HTTYD is. That is some good symbolism and attention to detail.

      Josiah the NFJosiah the NF8 ай бұрын
    • The axe symbolism is the mark of a good screenplay. Little things like that differentiate the mediocre from the excellent.

      E FulmerE Fulmer9 ай бұрын
    • @Prakriti well he leads, just not like his father did

      Caleb EvansCaleb Evans9 ай бұрын
    • I'm going to add *yet to this Maybe one day he will be

      PrakritiPrakriti9 ай бұрын
  • The animators for Toothless did use dogs for animation reference, but they also used cats, bats, birds and lizards and ideally attempted to combine their mannerisms in a unique way to get a unique body language. So while the pet peeve that all animated animals/pets are all glorified dogs is valid. I still give a lot of credit to the directors of HTTYD for trying to escape it slightly

    SmexyRulaSmexyRula3 ай бұрын
    • Thank you... finally a commenter who acknowledges the full range of animals Toothless is based on and not insisting that he's based on cats and ONLY cats LOL

      ProbsNoOneYouKnow TBHProbsNoOneYouKnow TBH3 ай бұрын
  • 11:10 And this is what I love most about these films. The animators/directors could have fully ignored this bit. Just have Stoic say" you're not my son" and close the door straight into him on the boats. But they chose to make you still like the character, even if they did something you may not like. And throughout the entire movie they keep the defining scenes, and small detail that make you grow to really enjoy the film. It keeps you wanting to rewatch it to appreciate all the love and detail that went into it

    J BJ BАй бұрын
  • Christ. Y'all making me cry when I thought I already shedded every tear I could for this series-

    MythicalMythical4 ай бұрын
  • This is the first video of yours I've watched and I burst into tears when you two said you were proud of me - haven't heard that from my father in years and could probably count all the times he has said it on one hand. Thank you, I really needed that.

    Sophia AkritasSophia AkritasАй бұрын
  • It kills me when Stoick says, "I should have seen the signs!" Like there was a percentage of dragon-loving vikings no one talks about.

    Bonnie BraeBonnie Brae10 ай бұрын
    • Bonnie Brae yup. Even before that, right after Stoick returns from the expedition Gobber says something about Hiccup being "sweet with the beasts" making him become famous without hurting the dragons during training.

      Daldre Daldre 10 ай бұрын
    • Shit I think he was foreshadowing Valka in the 2nd movie

      Hunter Uhuru AzraelHunter Uhuru Azrael10 ай бұрын
    • @Not Techy Tutorials Which is my exact point here

      Hélio HaranoHélio Harano10 ай бұрын
    • @Hélio Harano Applicability could mean that something could apply to someone, not that that something specifically applies to them. @Colossal Fossils and that whole "people don't accept you" as "its a gay metaphor" is so overused and stereotypical. Its that sort of thinking that I can't find any good stories with women without it becoming "it applies to men" (or even "it applies to drag queens" in one instance, for a whole dang special feature on a movie about child abuse).

      Not Techy TutorialsNot Techy Tutorials10 ай бұрын
    • It seems some people here need to look up “applicability” - a scene doesn’t have to be a gay metaphor to resonate with gay circumstances, and resonating with gay circumstances doesn’t reduce the scene’s meaning to a gay metaphor either.

      Hélio HaranoHélio Harano10 ай бұрын
  • 23:10, that's an awesome moment when Hiccup's mom reaches for his shoulder, then changes her mind to brush his hair. It changed what she said to wisdom from his mother, not just comfort from a stranger.

    Beth BookBeth BookАй бұрын
  • 26:37 I've been going through some shit with my dad because of me being trans, that hit me harder than I expected it to, thank you

    MamaWufMamaWuf4 ай бұрын
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