10 TROPES We Hate About Rom Coms

2022 ж. 7 Ақп.
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We see a lot of repeated tropes in romantic comedies, but do we see any of those same things in real life?

Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright walk through ten of their least favorite rom com tropes -- from things that would never happen in real life, to things that would be super creepy if they did, and some that actually happen a lot in real life and what we can learn from that. They break down some of the things that make these onscreen relationships unhealthy, and some of the qualities and actions that make a stable, healthy relationship and how to implement these in our own relationships. And this gives them an excuse to cram in a whole lot of references to their favorite and least favorite rom coms! (Because they don't actually hate rom coms, just some of the tropes that perpetuate unhealthy relationships.)

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Written by: Megan Seawright, Jonathan Decker and Alan Seawright
Produced by: Jonathan Decker, Megan Seawright & Alan Seawright
Edited by: David Sant
Director of Photography: Bradley Olsen
English Transcription by: Anna Preis
Spanish Transcription by: Juan Willems

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  • I think the worst romcom trope is the whole “persistence will get you the girl” thing. The main example that comes to mind is the notebook. He keeps asking her out and asking her out, she keeps saying no. Very firm in her answer. Then, only accepts when he threatens to jump off of a Ferris wheel to harm himself. That kind of thing is not romantic, especially in real life.

    Lindsey SteinLindsey Stein5 ай бұрын
    • @serenityq26 what, bullying and threatening a girl into a relationship she doesn't want is romantic?

      a simp a simp 14 сағат бұрын
    • @MrAranton I think the problem is the type of girl you are trying to date. The girls with a laundry list of expectations are higher maintenance. Maybe because they are good looking or crazy or whatever, but you are seeking out the wrong women/are attracted to the wrong women if you want true acceptance. Trying to date the typical hot Mean girl will often result in a mean bitch of a girlfriend. I sometimes see a particular issue when men talk about disasterous dating or complain about failing to court a woman. Sometimes, she is out of his league. Im not saying dont try. Im saying dont expect a goddamn thing OR date down maybe. If you are punching above your weight, in personality or character or looks, be reasonable in your expectations. Or be prepared to work your ass off to earn some attention in the first place.

      Rachael BrugmansRachael Brugmans4 күн бұрын
    • Yeah. And even when you don't resort to something as blatantly manipulative as a threat of self-harm, if you've tried a few times with no sign of genuine interest, wearing them down is not the same as winning them over.

      Steven NeimanSteven Neiman7 күн бұрын
    • @ema. That experience you brag about means nothing, if you base your conclusions on yourself - i.e. a sample size of one. Pathetic sample size aside: People who proudly stand by their bisexuality like you do you went through a phase of self-exploration, that would affect not just your views on dating and sexuality but also how you interpret other people's behaviour. Women you find willing to date you went through something similar. Heterosexual women or closeted lesbians/bisexual women have not completed that view-altering expierence. Also: They'll shoot your attempts to date them down before the shit-show men experience begins. But I digress: Because of that your claim to be representative of all women seems rather presumptious. On a final note: Telling people you disagree with to "stay atleast a continental distance" is pretty much as intolerant as it can get with out calling to kill them. By what right to do expect others to be tolerant towards you if they can't expect the favour to be returned?

      MrArantonMrAranton8 күн бұрын
    • @MrAranton from a woman, who’s dated women, AND men; I have THE most experience and say on this, you’re totally wrong and off base. Even at my worst on my bad days, I would always say yes to a guy I was interested in. If somebody is interested they make time wether it’s now or later. You sound like a stalker who wrote a BOOK of a comment to justify his insidious and downright creepy behavior. Please stay atleast a continental distance.

      ema.ema.8 күн бұрын
  • I despise “Enemies to Lovers”. Now, “Enemies to FRIENDS to Lovers”? I eat that up every single time. And like they said in the video, I think this trope works best over a long period of time. It also works best when the foundation of their hatred, the very ideas that make the two characters enemies, is wrong. It’s when these characters start to communicate and truly get to know each other that they realize that the other is not so bad after all. And then, and ONLY then, perhaps romantic feelings could grow.

    SelfDestructiveCatSelfDestructiveCat3 ай бұрын
    • Kinda why I like the wattpad stories where you can read the development from enemies, to friends, and then lovers.

      F.U.B.UF.U.B.U2 күн бұрын
    • I'm skeptical of any romantic arc that doesn't have some amount of time where the characters are in a healthy platonic friendship.

      Steven NeimanSteven Neiman7 күн бұрын
    • Or Friends to enemies, to friends to lovers. Oh my GOD THAT IS THE BEST. She-Ra pulled that off with no mercy lol. All the feels.

      RenshineRenshine12 күн бұрын
    • @roseYT oh that’s PEAK enemies to friends to lovers!

      SelfDestructiveCatSelfDestructiveCat14 күн бұрын
    • @Chansheng supremacy …I was absolutely talking about fanfics, don’t tell anyone lol

      SelfDestructiveCatSelfDestructiveCat14 күн бұрын
  • To give some credit to the animated Beauty and the Beast, the wolf attack scene is not there to serve as a romantic gesture, but for Beast to act in an altruistic, selfless way for the first time in the movie. And it doesn’t cause Belle to fall in love with him, but to see him as a human rather than a monster. A flawed human for sure, and he has much more work to do before anything close to a romantic connection can happen, but it’s the first step on his journey in the film.

    SynchronizorSynchronizorАй бұрын
    • @LilyRose89 You know, ever since I was a kid I've been curious as to why the Beast chased her in the first place because from the way he looked after he yelled at her, I thought he had realized his mistake and given up. Back then and even now, I want to believe that he did it because he knew how dangerous the forest was (this is a frequent explanation I've found on internet). The only problem is that he (unlike other adaptations of the character), doesn't seem to leave the Castle often enough to know; maybe he did before and as the years went by, he became more and more isolated? (The hopelessness and torture of living in his cursed body must not be the only thing that soured his already flawed character so much; being locked in his room and pushing everyone else away by terrorizing them must have also contributed). I was also thinking of the possibility that he simply saw through the window part of the wolf pack. But this is certainly an interesting interpretation! It takes away some of the nobility of the rescue but, it makes the sequence of events more intriguing; how the Beast has the fortuitous opportunity to transform his selfish and dastardly act into a gentle, self-sacrificing and humane one. Not only does he save her, he saves himself too.

      MairaMaira6 күн бұрын
    • @Love and Ukes sure, but we’re you really surprised? That’s the Disney remake way. They change things that don’t need to be changed, and eliminate elements that were absolutely crucial to the original

      Overseeer2579Overseeer25797 күн бұрын
    • I was *so mad* at live action Beauty and the Beast for cutting "thank you... for saving my life".

      Love and UkesLove and Ukes7 күн бұрын
    • She also almost left him to die in the woods

      Lianna GonzalezLianna Gonzalez14 күн бұрын
    • I agree with you. I also think ppl forget that Beauty and the Beast is a movie made for kids and that way things are made very extreme/obvious so kids can understand the story.

      SunflowerSunflower14 күн бұрын
  • Best description I’ve heard of why love at first sight doesn’t work: “Attraction is what you see. Infatuation is what you feel. Love is what you know.”

    Megan HireMegan HireАй бұрын
    • @Lydia Pearson Good advice is good advice. Don't forget; plenty of sources I've read/watched agree on that point. It's pretty common. You're attributing that basic idea to one group, and it doesn't change a thing.

      Omega13Omega1322 күн бұрын
    • 100%. Lust, attraction and infatuation are far too often confused for love and its sad. It's a good point that unfortunately has to be made

      Omega13Omega1322 күн бұрын
    • Isn't that from a Jehovah's Witness propaganda video? It is a legitimate point, but its origin is questionable.

      Lydia PearsonLydia Pearson26 күн бұрын
  • One I hate is the "oh I don't want romance" or "I don't need a man/woman" character that ALWAYS ends up getting hitched. Maybe it's because I'm aromantic, and im just tired of people thinking I'll get hitched, when I make it clear I have no interest, but it just heavily implies that romance is the ONLY way to be truly happy.

    Who knows at this pointWho knows at this point27 күн бұрын
    • A-FREAKING-MEN-

      Gloria LewisGloria Lewis3 күн бұрын
    • Hugs to you “Who knows at this point”. My daughter also doesn’t follow into stereotypes when it come to romance. May you find your way to surround yourself with the people who become your chosen family, in whatever form that needs to take.

      Katherine WalkerKatherine Walker6 күн бұрын
    • Ironically if you really feel the way you say you feel, you actually have a healthy understanding that you don't "need" another person to be truly happy and that's why you are MORE LIKELY to end up happily married over those who elevate their idea of a perfect spouse to god-like level perfection and the only way for fulfillment and worth.

      S. RoseS. Rose9 күн бұрын
  • I like how in the original non disney version of The Little Mermaid she goes through the transformation for the prince to still choose another girl. Her sisters response to this is 'kill him'. Seems more legit and true to life.

    K GK G6 ай бұрын
    • Let us not forget the symbolic implications of the prince marrying the girl who has a voice.

      Tyoka BinaTyoka Bina22 күн бұрын
    • Also, the prince did not fall in love with her

      April BesonApril BesonАй бұрын
    • @99telepath99 How was she being misandrist?

      Beethoven’s FidelioBeethoven’s FidelioАй бұрын
    • @Beethoven’s Fidelio Ooh I've never seen that! I'll have to check it out, it sounds fun.

      roselover411roselover4112 ай бұрын
    • @roselover411 If I wanted to watch a live-action version of Disney’s “The Little Mermaid”, I will watch “Splash” (1984) instead. Sure, “Splash” was released by “Touchstone Pictures”, but since “Touchstone Pictures” was a LABEL created by Disney in order to release “mature content” without undermining the wholesome “Disney brand”, “Splash” still counts as a DISNEY film. Heck, “The Little Mermaid” was initially rejected by Michael Eisner and Jeffrey Katzenberg out of concern that it sounded TOO SIMILAR to “Splash”. And well, they’re not exactly wrong about that: kzworld.info/throw/bejne/bXxqldeA35mfppU . Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised if the “Little Mermaid” remake had elements from “Splash” like the *prepubescent Ariel saving the prepubescent Eric from drowning* and *Eric turning into a merman at the end* in order to appease feminist complaints about how Ariel changed herself for a guy she barely knew, since it will now be ERIC who changes for Ariel, and Ariel meeting Eric when they were little kids would indicate that her attraction to Eric wasn’t completely one sided and random since they already met before. A Reddit post summed it best - *”The Little Mermaid live action film is a remake of an animated remake of Splash”.* : www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/t8vt38/the_little_mermaid_live_action_film_is_a_remake/? .

      Beethoven’s FidelioBeethoven’s Fidelio2 ай бұрын
  • I think my biggest flex in my relationship is being able to communicate. Me and my bf speak about anything, trauma, doubts in the relationship, next steps, when we are scare of the commitment we re making, when we are confused or frustrated. There is not a single doubt in my relationship that I can't share with him, and we always solve it together

    Adriana BolañosAdriana BolañosАй бұрын
    • I’ve been married 21 years next month and with him for 22 years and we’ve known each other for 26 years! Communication is definitely key.. you’ll always know where you stand with one another. It’s extremely important for a healthy long lasting relationship.

      T BowT Bow23 күн бұрын
    • 😀love this. Definitely something to celebrate!!

      KerryannKerryannАй бұрын
  • As a female fan of Cinema Therapy, I would like to say that I absolutely HATE love triangles, especially with two guys and one girl. I have never understood the appeal. The girl is never THAT special. There are always other wonderful characters around them they could be with and would actually appreciate them but for some reason they never see it. As for a fix it, maybe one of them could get therapy and realize that they deserve to have someone be loyal and put them first? Or someone could just die.

    Stephanie SStephanie SАй бұрын
    • I haven't seen this done in movies but some female protagonist in anime and/or manga can actually be so awesome that it justifies the triangle (or harems). Though, I find that it only works when the protagonist is either unaware or had yet to develop romantic feelings anyone. Then for me it's just fun to root for my favorite "ship" or character that I find most attractive. But just to clarify, this is in no way fun in real life as someone always gets hurt and that just sucks. So yeah, I'd rather see it in movies and novels.

      Fleeting with timeFleeting with time12 күн бұрын
    • I also find that trope super uncomfortable. I don't like how it tends to force Oh Wait One Of Them Sucks/Was Evil/Has A Terminal Illness or Old Ex That's Gonna Conveniently Pop Up to save the protagonist from having to make a difficult decision or hurt someone's feelings.

      bsidetheboxbsidethebox23 күн бұрын
    • I completely agree. Love triangles are one of my least favorite tropes of all time. I've read or watched a few that were good. But for the most part, they're tolerable at best and INSANELY AGITATING at worst. I think it's been WAY overdone, it was real popular back in the late 2000s and early 2010s. But now I think they need to take a SERIOUS step back. Like, if you can't fucking choose between the two, polyamory's right there. I couldn't have found a better comment.

      Megan ChapaMegan Chapa25 күн бұрын
    • Or it can turn into a polyamorous relationship

      PiscesPisces28 күн бұрын
    • Same, lady here and I've always hated love triangles (well, ok, I also dislike rom-coms in general). I hate them in fiction and I profoundly despite them in real life (unless you're poly and it's your thing...). If there's a sure way to rub me up the wrong way, is when I am already in a relationship and some guy, well aware of this, still has the nerve to come up and tries to "win me over" or at least convince me to cheat with him. WTF? Surely that's a great way to convince me they are worthy of my trust and of investing emotionally of them... Sure.

      𝖅𝖆𝖚𝖇𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖑𝖔̈𝖙𝖊𝖅𝖆𝖚𝖇𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖑𝖔̈𝖙𝖊Ай бұрын
  • An aside about the whole "attraction is not love." THAT is how aromatic people are still capable and can enjoy being in romantic relationships.

    Lolymop333Lolymop3332 ай бұрын
    • @No One that sounds fuckin awesome. "Sex?" "No" "🤝"

      Porkbelly CutletsPorkbelly Cutlets21 күн бұрын
    • Asexual here and been married 15 years to my husband. Definitely prefer affection or conversations or going out to do stuff than any of that sexual stuff. He's Asexual like me too, so it has been fun being with him! :D

      No OneNo One25 күн бұрын
    • THANK YOU. I am on the aromantic spectrum and while I may not be romantically attracted to my boyfriend of 3 years I adore him and love him deeply.

      Bryn TrimbleBryn TrimbleАй бұрын
  • I married my best friend's ex. It was definitely a love triangle. The Story: I moved into a new apartment and a cute neighbor guy started asking me on dates. He was also asking a couple other girls on dates. I was making new friends. Three months later I have a new best friend and she and I are the ones that this guy is most interested in... Awkward! The result was that she was better at communication and he chose to pursue her. I decided that I didn't want to lose a good friend because of some guy. It was rough, but the guy had made his decision and they ended up dating. A few months later, they broke up. About a year later he and I started going on dates again. A year or so later, we got married. That girl is still one of my best friends and we have dinner and game nights with her and her husband from time to time. It's like a Rom Com where neither option was toxic and it had a happy ending for everyone!

    Lexy SimmonsLexy Simmons2 ай бұрын
    • Well, I mean, that's not really a love triangle. She just dated him first, it didn't work out, and you guys got together and it did work out. In any case, congrats on all three of you for handling things in a mature fashion and staying friends.

      Kate WorkmanKate Workman19 күн бұрын
    • Well good for you. If it were me I wouldn't have pursued something like that, but I'm glad it all worked out and that there was no awkwardness. You guys acted like adults and I'm proud of you for that. Wish you, your husband, your best friend, and the rest of your family and friends a long and happy life. 😊

      Megan ChapaMegan Chapa24 күн бұрын
    • YAY!!!!!!!!!!

      Nobody's hereNobody's hereАй бұрын
    • @InGrindWeCrust2010 i thought you were implying they would kill each other in a fight over a girl im sorry for the misunderstanding! this happened a lot in movies or shows i watched and thought it was what you meant, my bad!

      ᄋᄉᄋniniᄋᄉᄋniniАй бұрын
  • I once read this text post that basically said: "The way love triangles are often written is kind of bad because it's two people backing someone into a corner, and it's usually a woman." Blew my mind.

    Rachel OrangeRachel Orange6 ай бұрын
    • ​@Presstostart HAHAHA, ah yes - I actually saw something like this in real life 30 years ago. Given the participants were in their early twenties, the story ended after a few months with the guys cornering the girl and asking her choose one. As I heard it, she explained to them that they were both individually free to either stop dating her or continue. Then she excused herself and left. Ah youth and their quirky ways of navigating love and relationships. To this day, I am not sure if she was an asshole or just very honest. I just chalk it up to being young tbh.

      Joanna BromanJoanna Broman14 күн бұрын
    • Pretty much. In my case, it was my husband's best friend in high school acting like he had claimed me all cause I had met him first. I really liked my husband and only ever saw his friend as a friend. His friend hated this. He threw a fit, called me a whore when I chose my husband, and got himself a therapist to deal with me being a selfish bitch. Everything I just said was legitimate. He stopped being friends with us, attempted to date a lot of my friends (which never worked out well) and then now whenever we see him in town, he kinda hides. I hated being in a love triangle against my will. My decision was to be with my husband (15 years strong now) and I never even batted an eye at his friend. It's insane!

      No OneNo One25 күн бұрын
    • i also hate how love triangles with 2 men and a woman usually make one man do something last minute that is unsavory or dumb so you no longer route for him and it forces her choice? like they said Sweet home Alabama is the only one that doesnt do this. I also never agree with the choice most of the women make, as its usually the toxic choice?

      clerbiemclerbiemАй бұрын
    • Yup the pressure leads her to choose but later might mostly likely regret her choice.

      Crystal Clear A.k.a. MissYokoCrystal Clear A.k.a. MissYokoАй бұрын
    • A good love triangle... Isn't really good drama. The best dramas had an obvious choice. Look at something like Gone with the Wind. The drama was milked from the fact people were incompatible and felt obligated to force themselves into a triangle with a sociopath

      ELIZABETH LEEELIZABETH LEEАй бұрын
  • "As a woman, how do you feel about watching love triangles?" It's almost painful. I've never been in one, but I've seen them play out and it's not pretty. It's about 32 flavors of uncomfortable. Somebody always gets hurt, there's a lot of jealousy flying around, it ruins relationships (platonic and otherwise) and the person who's being fought over is between a rock and a hard place and is the one who ultimately has to hurt somebody's feelings. I don't want to experience any of that. It's also why I give a wide berth to men who are so much as _vaguely interested_ in another woman.

    MalacophileMalacophileАй бұрын
    • Oh it’s the most painful and cringiest thing. It’s never pretty, it’s never civil. Someone always loses and is usually petty or resentful about it and the other two almost never can go without feeling guilt. Hate it hate it

      Nycole LeonNycole Leon9 күн бұрын
    • @No One That is honestly BS. Like. Blaming you for something that you can't control and never tried to tell him any different. I have always hated watching love triangles for many, many reasons but IRL ones... are still worse.

      Maya JowataMaya Jowata22 күн бұрын
    • I completely agree with you. Love triangles are totally unrealistic and usually don't happen in real life, and when they do, it's way messier than what is shown on TV and movies. Like, if I were in that situation were it was between me and another woman, CHOOSE THE OTHER WOMAN.

      Megan ChapaMegan Chapa24 күн бұрын
    • Yeah, love triangles suck IRL and in movies. My husband and his best friend both liked me in high school but I only ever showed interest in my husband and yet his friend saw it as I liked him first cause I had met him first??? Anyway, clearly things didn't go well. I chose my husband, his friend chose to call me a backstabbing whore, and then his friend ran away and got a therapist cause I "ruined him". It was like- WTF?!!!

      No OneNo One25 күн бұрын
  • Regarding voice, and all the icky implications of a girl giving up her voice to gain a lover: One my absolutely favorite romance novels starts out with a bounty-hunter sort-off rescuing a young-ish widow whose vocal-cords got damaged as a child --> no voice. Most people in her life just handle that by giving her orders, done. Her new travel acquaintance - ask her questions - realizes that she's a very good observer and useful to have around for work, so he ends up sharing his bounties with her - then realizes that she did learn sign language after the accident and still practices it, and immediately starts learning it: first the alphabet, then signs. Also, that sign language learning happened _before_ their relationship ever got romantic/sexual. It was simply him wanting to communicate without pen and paper.

    JuliaJulia3 ай бұрын
    • @Julia I just stayed up til 6am reading this. It was SO GOOD!

      Tales of a Hobby HopperTales of a Hobby Hopper7 күн бұрын
    • @ch3ru omg thank youuuuuuu

      varsh marshvarsh marsh19 күн бұрын
    • Sweet.

      Nobody's hereNobody's hereАй бұрын
    • @Alexander Buckles Hah Google-fu... Imma use this all the time now.

      theunschooledgirltheunschooledgirlАй бұрын
    • @ch3ru I googled it too, I'm positive you're right!

      Hadley McDonaldHadley McDonaldАй бұрын
  • So my opinion on the “enemies to lovers” trope is that it’s a power fantasy. Being someone’s enemy means you’re taken seriously. It feels differently than when the pair completely simp for no another. But I’m biased. My most successful relationship all started with some thrill of being challenged. Best dates are ones when I find someone willing to engage with my opinions enough to counter them. Or maybe I need therapy.

    PennyTheDreadfulPennyTheDreadful2 ай бұрын
    • I totally agree with you. I love the idea of someone taking me seriously and challenging me, especially since so many people in my life treat me like a child and don’t take me very seriously. Even if someone is an ‘enemy’ of mine, if they treat me like an adult and show respect for my intelligence and abilities, I would absolutely be willing to grow into a relationship, platonic or romantic, with them.

      Big Papa MagooBig Papa Magoo5 күн бұрын
    • Ig to some ppl, including you of course, this is applicable. But to me, the people I dislike and view as enemies are ppl who are bad and try to hurt others or are ignorant, or something like that. So I don't actually view them as my equal, I don't respect them much and I'm definitely never attracted to them.

      ManuManu20 күн бұрын
    • No no, it makes sense. Feeling like you are on the same level is an important thing in a relationship. We form relationships because we want to get something from them (and the other party does too) if it's a relationship where you are with the person the most, you need someone who challenges you, whom you learn from and get along with. Sometimes a little bit of a intellectual spar, disagreement or whatever is important. I think the enemy trope is more about desiring someone who is their own person and not changing or compromising immediately just because "pretty/handsome" person is talking to them. They are their own person and you are your own too. Something that gets lost in dependent relationships. Simping is disliked because it's like it erases who the other person is, their entire focus is on pleasing and bending for another person and that's not healthy. My relationship was not one of enemies, but my partner and I decided early on we'd talk about any subject, and we were friends first before we thought anything like attraction was there. Anytime we disagree or argue (not fight) about anything, as much as I dislike the feeling, I'm happy to know that we have different opinions or that he corrects me when I'm wrong and I correct him when he's wrong.

      Vixx CelaceaVixx CelaceaАй бұрын
  • You nailed it with no such things as "love at first sight". It's just "attraction at first sight" or "horny at first sight". And it sucks when a person's value is 100% dependent on what badass heroic things they do, and nobody delves into the personality or past or god forbid, traumas and issues.

    Rx HxRx Hx2 ай бұрын
    • Garnet already explained this

      C.B. MOAC.B. MOA6 күн бұрын
  • My least favorite trope: The miscommunication that could have been clarified in 10 seconds, but is now the basis for the near end of movie break-up, because two adult people are not mature enough to have a damn conversation.

    Nicole TracyNicole Tracy5 ай бұрын
    • Literally EVERY episode of supernatural!!! Which I love tbc... But this always drove me INSANE

      Lindsey LubeckLindsey Lubeck7 күн бұрын
    • Oh yeah, suuuuper annoying! How fragile is their trust and love that they go to that extreme so quickly?!

      Fire In A TeacupFire In A Teacup12 күн бұрын
    • Man: “Honey, I can explai-“ Woman: “I DONT WANT TO HEAR ANY MORE OF YOUR LIES.” Like that’s not how life and common sense works

      Blaise AveyBlaise Avey13 күн бұрын
    • @NicoleTracy That happened in the first "Shrek" movie, between him and Fiona. If either one of them had made a different or sooner choice, the whole last act of the movie would've played out another way, if it happened at all. (6/18/2022)

      Danielle MusellaDanielle MusellaАй бұрын
    • This annoys me even more in romance novels because often you get a character’s inner thoughts and I get annoyed when not a single one of those thoughts is just to ask for clarification or ask what the other character is really thinking/feeling.

      Katie KnottsKatie Knotts2 ай бұрын
  • I’ve always hated the term “love triangle” because a triangle has THREE angles and THREE sides. If you draw out pretty much every love triangle in rom-coms and draw lines between characters where there’s attraction, it’s a V. It’s just a V. I just want there to be a love triangle that’s an actual triangle and the three people just get together with all of them in a relationship in the end.

    Some Random Person on the InternetSome Random Person on the InternetАй бұрын
    • @Cool Name nah, the thruple is when they realize they all like each other and get together. The love triangle is the conflict before when they all think they’ll have to choose.

      Some Random Person on the InternetSome Random Person on the Internet7 күн бұрын
    • In Once Upon A Time I really felt they were teasing the idea that Mulan was in love with both Philip and Aurora... never shipped a polyamorous triad harder.

      Love and UkesLove and Ukes7 күн бұрын
    • I think that's the thruple

      Cool NameCool Name15 күн бұрын
    • @Some Random Person on the Internet iron widow by xiran jay xhao. dystopian young adult sci-fi novel.

      emi moonemi moon18 күн бұрын
    • @emi moon title and author?

      Some Random Person on the InternetSome Random Person on the Internet18 күн бұрын
  • As a gay man, the main trope I've seen over and over is that one of the partners in a gay relationship must die horrifically to prove that our kind of love is either a: an abomination that leads to divine punishment, or b: so beautiful that the ordinary must destroy it. It was not until the movie "Trick" that I saw an actual romcom about 2 guys. It might seem trivial, but as a 40 something gay man, finally seeing representation, I cried for two days at how things were finally changing. And I can tell you guys aren't gay. But you both are clearly in love with each other. And I think it's beautiful.

    shawn leprechaunshawn leprechaun3 ай бұрын
  • I love the Disney movie "Enchanted"because it purposely defies many of those tropes, with the main storyline being that love at first sight leads to couples that don't really know each other. No character has to change in order to be with the one they love, but there is genuine growth.

    norengnorengАй бұрын
    • 100 times YES! I don’t understand how that movie is not more popular and beloved!

      Sara GibsonSara Gibson8 күн бұрын
  • I'd actually love to see you review Ever After, the 1998 Drew Barrymore Cinderella movie. It still has the reltionship with a big lie at its foundation, but it also has inverted tropes and 2 people actually getting to know each other and having different opinions.

    eclzoetermeereclzoetermeerАй бұрын
    • my god I would love to see them analyse Ever After. The scene where she is told she can take whatever she can carry? Changed me.

      Punchin PumpkinPunchin Pumpkin21 күн бұрын
    • Omg THIS!! Ever After is one of my 3 favorite movies! The atmosphere, the music, the story development ✨ She literally rescues herself! Such a gem!

      Cote VallejosCote Vallejos29 күн бұрын
    • Yes! Please analyze that movie! ☺️

      K. L.K. L.Ай бұрын
    • That is one of my favourite movies ever! I don't actually like romance movies, but Ever After is an exception.

      WizradWizradАй бұрын
    • Love, love, loooove this movie!

      texassweetgrltexassweetgrlАй бұрын
  • 8:45 I have been saved FROM a man BY a wolf. My parents had wolves, random guy showed up in the yard and started talking to kid-me. Wolves didn't like how the guy was walking toward me and surrounded me baring their teeth at him. He wisely decided to move on. Lol

    DarkWolfDarkWolf4 ай бұрын
    • @zenfrodo Me too!

      Heather SHeather S14 күн бұрын
    • This is freaking awesome and I absolutely need to see this in a movie sometime But also, props to those wolves for recognizing the threat and defending their friend

      Maya JowataMaya Jowata22 күн бұрын
    • @Tate Tousey Wolves are magnificent. Thank you for the work you do.

      KerryannKerryannАй бұрын
    • epic. EPIC.

      KerryannKerryannАй бұрын
    • AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

      Lenovi GustoLenovi GustoАй бұрын
  • Alan: "We don't have 3 hours to sit there and be bored while people are just decent to each other." Me, an Asian drama fan: *"And I took that personally."*

    Okumura XOkumura X27 күн бұрын
  • In my long-term relationship, I wouldn't say that the love comes and goes, I'd say that the feeling of infatuation comes and goes but the love is always ever present. Sometimes I feel deeply attracted and infatuated to my boyfriend similar to when we were first dating sometimes I just feel like he's my warm comfortable best friend And to answer your question about love triangles in movies, I think when I was a teenager they appealed to me cuz it would seem like an ego stroke to have multiple people attracted to you, but later in life I was actually in love triangle and trust me it is hell and not fun at all people just get hurt and relationships get ruined

    Ruby DarlingRuby DarlingАй бұрын
    • @No One yeah I think we're basically saying the same thing just in different words. I love being in my long-term relationship too

      Ruby DarlingRuby Darling25 күн бұрын
    • Well, after a while, things become very comfortable and you just don't have to work as hard. I'm going on 15 years with my husband and we're the best of friends. There's no need to worry about the other talking to someone of the opposite sex or hanging out with them, there's no need to panic if I become sick or injured or he does because we know the other will be there... Love and affection are still there. Things like cuddling and hanging out are a lot more fun than trying to be all romantic and cute all the time. I honestly love being in a long-term relationship.

      No OneNo One25 күн бұрын
  • my most hated one, is sort of the "Avoidable Miscommunication" one, although its not always a relationship thing, but that conversation where there is going to be drama because the writers spent like 10 hours making this conversation happen with both characters not mentioning a tiny detail that, if mentioned, would make both of them go "wait, what?" and solve like 90% of the drama thats about to happen. it just really pulls me out of enjoying it because its SO OBVIOUSLY written to have both sides misunderstand/stay unaware of something that would just be part of the conversation. bonus annoy points if its during a fight, where it is almost impossible that one of them would not yell SOMETHING that would twig the other that they are talking about a different thing/not seeing the whole picture.

    sheoakgirlsheoakgirl3 ай бұрын
    • Yes!!! Miscommunication is fine if the characters have an understandable reason to keep the information from each other, but it's so frustrating when it's forced

      Tay H.Tay H.25 күн бұрын
  • At #4 I was like "But I like rescue tropes! 😟" but then I remembered that, A.) it was being talked about in the context of a romcom, and I don't watch a whole lot of romcoms (I prefer action films where rescues are par for the course), and B.) I like platonic rescues just as much where a character is on their last legs, and a friend or family member or even the whole friend squad saves the day. I just like seeing ride-or-die relationships between people.

    Cheyenne OliverCheyenne OliverАй бұрын
  • I love Princess Bubblegum's take on love at first sight: "“What you're feeling is called infatuation. The pain is the product of you overvaluing a projected, imaginary relationship with me.”"

    Liz OrchardLiz Orchard5 ай бұрын
    • Nice.

      Nobody's hereNobody's hereАй бұрын
    • That goes hand in hand with Garnet's take on love at first sight: "Love at first sight doesn't exist. Love takes time, and love takes work. At the very least, you have to know the other person."

      Vanessa WalshVanessa WalshАй бұрын
    • Oof I was there in middle school to many times

      Pamber 13Pamber 13Ай бұрын
    • I dislike princess bubble gum but her relationship with fin could never work

      Seyanu AgboolaSeyanu Agboola3 ай бұрын
    • @Cloudy Nguyen We weren't very close friends, but it did seem like she enjoyed my company a lot when we occasionally met at uni. We were never more than friends though. I rarely think about her, but when I do I can tell I clearly still have non-platonic feelings about her, I don't have the emotional self-awareness or emotional intelligence to know if it is infatuation, legitimate romantic interest or if she has become a symbol of the culmination of my social and emotional shortcomings. I do have a life though, and I feel so alive and worthy when I do muay thai sparring

      Theoplays 3Theoplays 33 ай бұрын
  • Speaking of Cinderella there, have you guys ever watched, or would consider to watch Ever After: A Cinderella Story? It's still cheesy all the same, but I found the main character to be more empowering and believable than the Disney version. It even got me to read Thomas More's Utopia.

    wannabreakfreewannabreakfreeАй бұрын
    • @cinematherapy Please react to Ever After and Ella Enchanted!!!!

      Ann YebeiAnn Yebei14 күн бұрын
  • I saw a quote somewhere once that said "thank god I didn't find what I thought I wanted when I was younger" and it hit very hard as someone who used to bury themselves in romance books, films or series and romanticize every scenario in my head until I actually got into a long term relationship and realised that those things were bonkers

    Erika JohanssonErika JohanssonАй бұрын
  • When Jonathan was talking about the whole “enemies to lovers” trope saying that it’s incredibly rare in real life, saying that his sister and her husband is the only example that he knows, it reminded me that I also know a couple like this (and only them) in real life. My family are friends with their family, which he is a wealthy, white American who is a farmer and she is a smart, beautiful Filipino woman who is considerably younger than he is (he is in his 60s while she’s in her 40s). Even after 20+ years of marriage and raising 5 beautiful children together, they’re still very much in love but they actually didn’t like each other when they first met. There’s a popular myth around here that she was a mail order bride, but they actually met in the Philippines when he vacationed there and she worked at the hotel he was at and while most of the women were flirting with him, she didn’t. I’m not exactly sure why they didn’t like each other, all I know that it was mutual. However, on his second visit, he asked for a guide who spoke good English and they pointed him towards her. After spending time with each other, they started to like each other and he eventually asked her to visit America with him. She agreed and she’s been living here ever since, along with her mother and father and her brother who was only a child (he is now 25) when he came to the US.

    Elisabeth HeimanElisabeth HeimanАй бұрын
    • That would make a GREAT movie!

      Brenda McAlpineBrenda McAlpine16 күн бұрын
  • For the love triangle: I was dating a guy who was the safe vanilla bet, we'd started off well enough but he took me for granted after a while. Then I befriended a wild spontaneous guy and after a short time caught feelings. I wrestled with myself for literal months feeling like the shittiest person on earth. I read a quote (which was attributed to Johnny Depp but I don't know if he is the original source) that said "If you love two people, go with the second one, because if you truly loved the first, you wouldn't fall for the second" not sure how I feel about the quote now that I'm older but I dated the new guy until his spontaneity got too much for me and now I'm married to my best friend from college. My advice; friends before lovers always has the strongest bonds.

    KutanraKutanraАй бұрын
  • In Ariel’s defense, she wanted to be a human before seeing Eric. He was just the final push, along with a pretty traumatic event involving her father destroying everything she had collected in a really violent manner. They were objects, but for her, they were priceless, and he destroyed it all.

    Lauren FreyLauren Frey6 ай бұрын
    • @Sikah Yes, exactly. Triton was actually correct, and, as a single parent, really was trying, but made mistakes by excessive harshness and by trying to protect her through authoritarian methods. That storyline in the movie is more interested than the love-story part.

      Rebecca HicksRebecca Hicks27 күн бұрын
    • @Anna Bourbon So basically you're describing Hotel Transylvania on Netflix by Adam Sandler but with merfolk. XD

      VAPX007VAPX0073 ай бұрын
    • @serenityq26 And that’s what I worry about the live action remake. Ariel is a self hating black girl who wants to be where the white humans are because she finds their world to be more progressive and technologically advanced than her underwater world. And to make matters worse, Ariel would have to give up her VOICE to be where the white people are, as if black folks don’t already have a long racist history of having their voices silenced in a white supremacist society. Not to mention that it could get into white saviorism with the black Ariel seeing the white Prince Eric as a means to escape her abusive family.

      Beethoven’s FidelioBeethoven’s Fidelio4 ай бұрын
    • @Brittany Becker You say all those things like they’re bad. What’s wrong with Prince Eric and Ariel traversing each other’s world? If Ariel has to change herself to fit into Eric’s world, then why not have Eric change himself to fit into Ariel’s world? Ariel shouldn’t feel cut off from her family. If the person you’re married to won’t let you see your family and friends, that’s a 🚩! What’s wrong with the Prince being an anthropologist? Perhaps him being an anthropologist will allow Ariel to show off her scientific findings. And hey, why not have Eric be fascinated with the sea and put ocean related paraphernalia in the castle? That way, Ariel can feel right at home because you can take the girl out of the sea but you can’t take the sea out of the girl. 😂

      Beethoven’s FidelioBeethoven’s Fidelio5 ай бұрын
    • Sooooo have her go into the air WITHOUT the prince. Or have her fall for the prince who's an anthropologist/marine biologist/person into studying like Ariel is. Or have no love interest. Or have the love interest be like, 'Let's commute half and half with you fam'. Or actually acknowledge the writer meant this to be a metaphor for being a bi man who spent his life unable to be with the people he loved and had to watch in pained silence as they married other people.

      Brittany BeckerBrittany Becker5 ай бұрын
  • I think one of my favourite rom coms is The Proposal [sort of spoilers]. It has some of the tropes, enemies to lovers, big gesture etc but like pride and prejudice they (albeit much quicker) become better people before they are truly compatible. Like there's some attraction but that power imbalance keeps them apart. A criticism I've seen is she has to change for him, but she doesn't really change, just becomes comfortable enough to be vulnerable around him. And he enjoys tormenting his boss until he recognises that vulnerability and treats her with respect. Also, Ryan Reynold's butt.

    KutanraKutanraАй бұрын
    • 🤣😂👍🏼

      Shauna ZauggShauna ZauggАй бұрын
  • I came up against a love triangle when I fell for a man who was already dating someone. My advice: open communication. I told him how I felt and then it was up to him. He chose the lady he was already with. I accepted his decision and danced at his wedding. Not good movie material but I'm proud of all 3 of us.

    Su ElliottSu Elliott2 ай бұрын
  • It means so much to me that you guys mentioned the "love is not a feeling, it's an ability". I feel so seen.

    FlooFlightFlooFlightАй бұрын
  • I would like to say that yes, love at first sight exists WHEN it comes to food. When something looks soo good and you just love it even before eating it.

    Linda MontesLinda Montes2 ай бұрын
  • I didn’t realize how bland Eric was until I watched the Broadway version of the little mermaid where he seems more sincere as they actually spend time together, he teaches Ariel how to dance so they can bond without words, and he was still chasing this voice throughout the story, but they had a different climax where there’s a singing contest to win Eric’s hand in marriage, and Ariel rushes in and is gonna be escorted out while everyone else laughs because they know she can’t compete, but then Eric stops them and is like “No wait, go ahead” and she does the little dance step they did together and he realizes he’s been looking in the wrong places and wants to be with her, and when he announces her as the winner Ursula tries to use Ariel’s voice in the distance to lure him away, but he chooses to dismiss it and run to Ariel for the almost before sunset but not quite kiss, and movie Eric could’ve been at least a little better, that is all

    Em StewartEm Stewart5 ай бұрын
    • @Rebecca Hicks I always got the impression that the plot was more about king Triton learning to let go of Ariel than it ever was about Eric, but I first watched it fully when I was older than most who saw it, and it's still not a really good excuse for Eric's character to be so bland.

      Gino GatashGino Gatash27 күн бұрын
    • As an adult looking back on the Little Mermaid (the Disney movie) it now seems like it's more about a teenager making mistakes, and her dad who's doing his best as a single parent, but pushes her away by being too harsh. At least that's the more interesting thing going on in the movie--better than the love-story part.

      Rebecca HicksRebecca Hicks27 күн бұрын
    • @FlowersBlossom Well Eric is literally three letters away from the word “generic”. 😂

      Beethoven’s FidelioBeethoven’s FidelioАй бұрын
    • We just did the little mermaid for our musical and I can’t watch the movie anymore because of how absolutely b l a n d Eric is

      FlowersBlossomFlowersBlossomАй бұрын
    • @Kewtie you know for a fact it's gonna be shit it's a Disney live action remake, there's only 2 ways to go with those films, either make a faithful remake with worse design and extra shit that doesn't fit in the story or even subtractions that impoverishes the film of all their nuance and such, or an equally terrible weird reimagining that doesn't have any reason to be marketed as a remake other than money, and everyone will stop talking about it after a couple of weeks after it comes out.

      Gino GatashGino GatashАй бұрын
  • Jill Bearup did an awesome thing about enemies to lovers, it's all about respect, you can't be enemies with someone you have no respect for, to truly argue with someone you can't be dismissive or pity them and so you can build on that as a foundation, at least in fiction/drama

    JohnyDLJohnyDLАй бұрын
  • You guys have the loveliest friendship ❤ And yeah, you're so right that the Jane Austen version is often better :) I enjoy how often the attractive badboys in those stories turn out to be terrible, and the vanilla "boring" man turns out to be the best all along :) (Or in Emma, we also get the plot of the rich eligible man turning out to be terrible, and the kind, low status farm boy turns out to be the best!)

    Love and UkesLove and Ukes7 күн бұрын
  • 21:12 Well, I have no idea how I would deal with it. But interestingly enough, one of my all time favorite directors, Ishiro Honda, has a love triangle or a forbidden love story in almost all of his movies. And the reason why they’re featured so prominently in his films is because he’s actually writing about his relationship with his wife. You see, in the early 1930s when Honda was in film class with Akira Kurosawa, he met the woman who would eventually become his wife, Kimi. But, Ishiro Honda’s parents had already arrange for him to be married to another woman, and because Ishiro went against the arranged marriage and instead married another woman, both his parents and Kimi’s parents disowned them and never supported them again. And so, after Ishiro came back from being a prisoner of war fighting a war with China from 1935-1938 or so and then getting another draft letter and being sent into WW2 from 1939-1945, he and his wife had no one to turn to and had to fend for themselves because neither one of their parents would support them because they married each other against their parents wishes.

    Nathaniel SchwartzNathaniel Schwartz11 күн бұрын
  • My favorite "how we fell in love" story is from an internet friend, who met his girlfriend through Tinder and spent a first date talking about a tabletop game he was in at the time, which she thought was so endearing that she wanted a second date. "don't be afraid to be yourself, because someone right for you will love you for who you really are" might seem like trite BS, but it is 100% solid advice.

    Steven NeimanSteven Neiman7 күн бұрын
  • My thoughts about love triangles is just that…if you’re in love or have feelings for more than one person and want them both…I think looking into a non-monogamous life style should be considered. But romcoms are 99.99% extremely monogamous and treat polyamory like it’s either wrong or doesn’t exist at all. This is a mindset people have outside of movies too; We get so used to the idea of monogamy that that we become trapped in it, so much so that for some people they can’t even see polyamory as an option, even if it’s the thing that would make them happiest.

    Macy SkaggsMacy SkaggsАй бұрын
  • During the whole “enemies to lovers” thing you showed Megan and Graham from But I’m a Cheerleader and I think the difference with that one is that Megan initially doesn’t like Graham because Graham doesn’t care about changing or being anyone other than who she is, whereas Megan has internalized a lot of homophobia so she thinks that gay = bad and straight = good or desirable. This is an actual thing that does exist because of the realities of growing up as a gay person in a homophobic society. Once Megan comes to accept herself for who she is, then she can form a relationship with someone else.

    Janna ChristineJanna Christine24 күн бұрын
  • Love triangle, my experience: it was complicated, but in the end, the 2 guys in question respected each other because they liked me for the same reasons. They actually talked it out, bonded and ended up becoming very good friends....because of me. the one I ended up with ended up being perfect, and that freed up the other guy to find his soulmate. Which never would have happened if we had stuck together. Basically, we talked. everyone talked to everyone and was honest.

    Lizzie CroweLizzie CroweАй бұрын
  • Love triangles are actually a turn-off for me. I've been attracted to two people at the same time, but it's important to make a choice and stick with it (Or try the polygamy route) because ultimately, Love is making the choice and the commitment to be with that person to the exclusion of others for as long as the relationship lasts. It semi-works in Hunger Games because it's an absolute train wreck all around. Gale is the friend that lets her pretend she's back pre-trauma, but the life of her loved ones literally depends on her pulling off a fake romance with Peeta. She never saw Gale as more than a friend, and never knew Peeta at all until he sprung the star-crossed lovers angle on her at the Tribute Interviews. Katniss is never given the chance to figure out her emotions, and while both boys claim to love her, neither one of them respects her boundaries or her desire for both of them to back off and give her some space. Katniss does NOT enjoy them fighting over her; she's trying desperately to keep her head above water, and this is one more thing on her overflowing plate.

    Natasja RoseNatasja Rose2 ай бұрын
  • Gotta admit, I've got a soft spot for the "enemies to lovers" story, but only if there's a "platonic friendship" stage in between. Also, it works a lot better in series where you have more time for them to sort out their differences and slowly start to connect.

    Gui CaldoGui Caldo6 ай бұрын
    • 100%!

      SelfDestructiveCatSelfDestructiveCat3 ай бұрын
    • @Aruki Tsukaru i used to be a reylo shipper and after years of reflection, that ship fucking sucked. There were scenes and concepts they had that I liked but damn the writing and development was HORRIBLE. The reylo community and its fans, in general, are embarrassing asf. They were rlly out here harassing John Boyega over a ship.

      inurbasementinurbasement4 ай бұрын
    • @Nomi Sunrider there are more nuanced and realistic takes on "enemies to lovers" like P and P. They don't vehemently hate each other they just misunderstand each other

      inurbasementinurbasement4 ай бұрын
    • Dig up the Romeo&Julia sequel "Still Starcrossed" if you can. It does that in such a gorgeous way, with character growth and everything. I'm still heart-broken that one didn't go beyond one season.

      JuliaJulia4 ай бұрын
    • @Nomi Sunrider I feel like this trope is often the virgin version of a real life thing I personally love. "enemies" into lovers; Where two people have a more nonstandard chemistry and their banter on the outside looks like bullying but it's basically foreplay to them. How movies portray them looks like what your little brother thinks when you try to explain why you and your partner call each other catty bitch all the time.

      KawetaKaweta4 ай бұрын
  • love is not just an emotion, it's a choice. ❤❤❤ understanding this boundary would totally solve so many problems in relationships.

    Chalise WatsonChalise WatsonАй бұрын
  • My parents relationship was an enemy's to lovers trope and it's almost there 30th anniversary, they have an incredibly strong, healthy, and consistent relationship. Highly uncommon but I wanted to share.

    unrealunreal11 күн бұрын
  • I was in a love triangle once. That was unpleasant! Two guys were making afford to be with me. In that case, I always say to myself, if you can’t choose one of them, you always have the third option - choose no one. Because, if you are not sure about one in particular you are settling down and will regret your choice anyway. And sometimes that love triangle isn’t about you, its about two guys competing with each other. So I stopped all communication with two of them and ended up with another man. Need no drama.

    Al PakAl Pak29 күн бұрын
  • In terms of love triangles, my favorite is in the beginning of a Korean tv drama Her Private Life. Part of what I enjoy about it is how much the triangle only really exists in the brain of one character who completely misreads the relationship of two other characters. The whole show is full of relationship triangles, some of them not romantic at all. In fact I have found I love the K-drama version of the romantic comedy, as there usually is not just a single love triangle, but a whole web of relationships that gets explored. I also feel like I should say that as much fun as they are to watch, I have no desire to be in a love triangle myself.

    LadyoSunLadyoSunАй бұрын
  • I've always depised the makeover trope, where an already gorgeous girl is given frumpy clothes, glasses or a ponytail, and nobody realises her "True Beauty" until the big reveal. One of the tropes that "Not Another Teen Movie" brilliantly parodied.

    Trina QTrina Q6 ай бұрын
    • So I just watched the DUFF where I really like how they handled this trop. While the movie does follow a lot of the common tropes of its genre, when it comes to the transformation scene she doesn't really look all that different. And they never really cast a supermodel girl and put her in frumpy clothing to make her less attractive so they can make her more attractive when they put her in tight clothing. And the character even has a monologue about it how basically she just feels like herself but in a nicer dress. Oh no I liked how that part was hit I thought it was pretty good.

      SquirrelSquirrelАй бұрын
    • Or her natural hair is considered ugly but THEN she straightens it and suddenly everybody's heads are turning 😭😭

      MJMJАй бұрын
    • Especially when her wearing glasses is treated like a deformity.

      Xehanort10Xehanort102 ай бұрын
    • I think the makeover scenes could be better if they complimented the beauty already there. In some makeover scenes, the character is already attractive, it's just a matter of how to style the look in order to stay true to the actual character

      M&M GM&M G2 ай бұрын
    • Oh my gosh yes I HATE IT. She was already pretty, quit lying!

      Faith Tiny WishesFaith Tiny Wishes4 ай бұрын
  • Just found your channel. This is great. The #1 trope in reverse: Superman. Clark Kent is the "really nice guy"/ boy next door, but remove the glasses and suddenly he's captivating and completely unrecognizable.

    Elizabeth KingElizabeth KingАй бұрын
  • Enemies to lovers is my favorite trope IF it is done right. The "he's the hero, and she's the only female in this move, so they end up together" trope is NOT the way to do enemies to lovers.

    Imp Again!~Imp Again!~Ай бұрын
  • I watched this because 1) I love this channel but also 2) because I'm writing a romance novel and I wanted to make sure I wasn't hitting any of the awful tropes. haha Thankfully, I'm not! (Well I sort of have enemies to lovers, but it's not true enemies, more like wrong assumptions eventually corrected when healthy behaviors are shown).

    00juls0000juls00Ай бұрын
  • Love at First Sight gets under my skin. I like to tell the story of my GF. I found her super annoying, as she would invade all my private time and made herself a constant presence. But the more I spoke with her, the more I grew to love her. It took two years for us just being friends for those feelings to grow naturally, and now we've just hit our third year of dating. I think Love at First Sight really undervalues the Concept of Love. You got to truly connect with somebody on a Deeper Level to love them.

    Hollow InsideHollow Inside2 ай бұрын
  • The best "makeover" handling was in Nanny McPhee: scullery maid Evangeline gets a makeover and nobody recognises her - except Cedric, who already loved her and says "She's always looked like that."

    Marcus DirkMarcus Dirk6 ай бұрын
    • omg i forgot about that movie. huge part of my childhood lol

      ellell5 ай бұрын
    • Don’t forget that Nanny McPhee was also made over. As the children became better behaved and thought of her differently, she became more beautiful. Could be that they were seeing her insides and how much she cared but it was subtle and another reason that I loved that movie.

      Beauty and the BoatBeauty and the Boat5 ай бұрын
    • Awwww! I am melting with happiness! 🥰Cedric is a gem.

      Teresa EllisTeresa Ellis5 ай бұрын
    • Now I need to rewatch that movie cause nanny McPhee was my CHILDHOOD

      Julia RunnJulia Runn6 ай бұрын
    • 🥺💕

      burieVroprideburieVropride6 ай бұрын
  • After watching this video, I’d love to see y’all react to the ending of La La Land, if not the whole movie. At first I think many people didn’t like it or were thrown off by it, but you easily realize that it is such an amazing ending and so different from other romance movies

    Amanda OdomAmanda OdomАй бұрын
  • My husband and I were not 'hate' at first sight, but we strongly disliked one another. We ended up in each other's company frequently, though, because we had the same friends. Over time we began to talk, and realize we had more in common than we thought, and we had just met each other while we were both in bad places mentally. As we worked on ourselves, we grew closer and eventually supportive of each other's efforts at getting things right in our lives. We've now been married for 28 years.

    Sky CarsonSky CarsonАй бұрын
  • I was in a small love triangle where 2 roommates liked me and my interest was there with the first roommate but there was much more attraction with the second roommate! It was not as fun as the movies make it look because I had play the game of being polite to the first roommate while trying to get the attention of the second roommate without totally ignoring the first guy because they had been friends for a long time. The second roommate knew the first roommate liked me and tried to good friend and let 1st guy ask me out first but when the second roommate finally got the vibe from me that I was interested in him (I had to tell him that we should set up his roommate with my friend) then he went to his roommate and said “if you’re not going to ask her out, then I’m going to.” Long story short - I married the second roommate and we actually see the first roommate here and there but triangles can be pretty awkward in real life!

    Lydia PorterLydia PorterАй бұрын
  • Ugh i have friends that *looove* the love triangle trope and I don't get it. I didn't mind it until I started to notice it all over and now my life is oversaturated with the trope. Nothing is more annoying to me for that reason right now, hopefully it will settle down and not be so abrasive. In the mean time, I'd enjoy a movie where the girl doesn't get either guy because she's playing them both and they get fed up with her and find better women/men elsewhere. Hell, make one where the two guys realize they actually have *amazing* chemistry and end up together.

    OseiBayard3hOseiBayard3h3 ай бұрын
  • Fun fact about Matthew McConaughey: he was so sick of doing rom-com acting that he took a multi-year hiatus and refused dozens of offers because he was ONLY offered rom-com movie leads. He waited until he was offered anything outside of the genre.

    Rachel RakRachel Rak3 ай бұрын
    • @Locormus2 Oh, no, nonono: Reign of Fire. Pure magic.

      S LS LАй бұрын
    • Wow!... That's sad.

      Nobody's hereNobody's hereАй бұрын
    • I don't blame him. It would be like if Hugh Jackman can only get a role in a movie if he was naked and/or put in bondage.

      Mystic MindMystic MindАй бұрын
    • @Julia I don’t think it was just that. I think it was also the more toxic and/or misogynistic qualities of said characters (like discussed in the video) that likely made him stave off any movie offers until he got the chance to do more of a variety of genres

      Overseeer2579Overseeer2579Ай бұрын
  • My romantic relationship wasn't so much "enemies" as I didn't like him at first nor did he like me; we both judged the other harshly and while we had things in common they were superficial. We both challenged one another to grow as people in ways we needed to and now we are a good pair. And because we knew the other wasn't seeing our best spots, there wasn't anyone to disappoint, so it allowed us to be much more vulnerable with the other during our growth period. So here's another point for "enemies to lovers". You don't go from hating one another to kissing without character development by any means. But I feel more secure in a future with my person as our relationship is based on honesty, feedback, and growth. And after deciding to go through life together, we learned to add mutual support in the mix.

    Jenni LevenbookJenni Levenbook2 ай бұрын
  • Omg, the way Alan aggressively says "Happy Valentine's Day. I hope you're in love and it's great." had me cracking up. That's my attitude towards Valentine's Day. The chemistry of the friendship between these two men is awesome. Definitely friendship goals! I just recently discovered Cinema Therapy and I'm liking these videos! Shout out to @Cinema Therapy for representing movies that aren't as popular. Thank you for mentioning the highly underrated rom com "Serendipity", which is one of my favorites! I have also noticed you guys seem to make movie references in your normal speech. That's awesome!

    Ashley JusticeAshley Justice6 күн бұрын
  • I was in a part of a love triangle with my current best friend. He chose the other girl and it caused a lot of pain and tension between us for a while. Luckily he was mature enough for us to talk it out and we’re on much better terms now. I also have a really good relationship with the other girl as well. In this case time did heal the wounds.

    Anna GautreauxAnna GautreauxАй бұрын
  • My favorite example of a love at first sight moment is from It's A Wonderful Life. Technically it wasn't their first time seeing each other. Earlier in the film it shows him as a teenager and her as a young girl. And because of her age he didn't see her in that way. It's definitely better written than your average romance. She has been secretly in love with him since she was a little girl. And the movie spends quite a bit of time building their real relationship.

    ThisisFizbanThisisFizban17 күн бұрын
  • A big romantic gesture for me was when I told my partner, during conversations over the years that we'd been together, that I did not want to be proposed to in public. I did NOT want a big song and dance and I really disliked it when the parents are asked for permission *barf*. One morning about a year ago I woke up to my guy kneeling beside the bed with a ring. When he asked me to marry him I was comfy, cosy and warm in our bed. I said yes, and then I asked him to marry me. He said yes too. He told my family beforehand what he was going to do. It was respectful, a courtesy, but it wasn't seeking permission. It was perfect.

    PsychedelicPegasusPsychedelicPegasus6 ай бұрын
    • @wyterabitt She mentioned them conversing about the topic so I imagine if he held different wishes he would have mentioned them. While it's possible he yielded and compromised it's also possible he wished for the same & her expressing her wishes may have made it easier on him. Allowing him to propose in a situation that would be the most comfortable for her to make such a grand decision in. In a loving relationship the answer may hold more importance than the "how".

      MicaMica4 ай бұрын
    • @wyterabitt Mine was a mutual discussion. We both laughed at what our worst ideas of proposals would be. Thankfully we agree on most things. If we don’t we either let it be or compromise if need be 👍🏻

      LunabearLunabear4 ай бұрын
    • @wyterabitt You're what's wrong with freedom of speech.

      Keywii PlaysKeywii Plays4 ай бұрын
    • @Keywii Plays Some people always quick to ignore red flags when the circumstances are preferred. The only thing they described at all is years of making sure their partner better not do something they don't like, repeatedly. And succeeding. And you twisted it into a nice thing that should be celebrated just because that's what you want it to be rather than any part of what they actually said (hey look I can make definitive statements about your intent as well, I must be clever like you).

      wyterabittwyterabitt4 ай бұрын
    • @wyterabitt Did you want them to describe every conversation they had with their partner for multiple years in a youtube video? It was a nice sentiment of one people not wanting something, and their partner respecting that in a show of wholesome love and compassion you don't see normally and you twisted it into a manipulation on the part of the OP because of how they worded it and what they didn't say. Don't do this.

      Keywii PlaysKeywii Plays4 ай бұрын
  • I was in a love triangle once. I had a conversation with the guy I was seen and I told him I was confused because I thought I was developing feelings towards another person. I asked him a week to think about it and to be with myself. I also told the other guy about my feelings and about my situation with the other one, but as I wasn't sure if I wanted to try a relationship with him I needed some time to think. Everything was fine in the end

    Bia LimaBia Lima2 күн бұрын
  • There was actually one love triangle I really liked towards the end in the show called Legend of Korra! It's because the love triangle with two women and a guy ACTUALLY became a complete love triangle with the two women deciding to date EACH OTHER in the end! Great subversion, we need to see that in media way more

    Doc Doc.Doc Doc.Ай бұрын
  • The love triangle I’ve had! Me and Alfie liked each other, we’d constantly go back and forth, chat, flirt and had pretty good chemistry. But it got too much for me, I got scared and basically then friend zoned him even though I still love him He would go on about how lonely he is and needs love, meaning me, and I would be supportive and tried to help as much as I could After a while he got together with Libby, who is a close friend to both of us and I again am supportive but still feel sad cause I still love him When they first got together me and Alfie would still talk but not as much and with many less pet names and flirting cause in that situation it would be wrong Recently however, we’ve been talking a little more than usual and he’s brought back the names and the flirting. To a much lower level but it’s still there Alfie and Libby are still together and I’m happy that he’s finally happy and it’s very clear when you see them together but I still feel sadness and regret for treating him the way I did The two of them are still together and love each other but I still love him and it would seem that he still has some sort of feelings for me 🥺😍😔🥹😂????????

    Gem am IGem am I15 күн бұрын
  • We could do "consistent change over time" without spending 3 hours. A nice, concise montage showing time passing while they keep showing up and keep doing the right thing with cues showing seasons going by as they slowly win their lover over again.

    Stephen TroyerStephen Troyer19 күн бұрын
  • How to deal with a love triangle: Highschool me: paralyzed by the fear of making the wrong choice... end up making worst choice possible while wondering why I had to choose just one person. Adult me: tell them that I'm torn between being interested in someone else at the same time.... basically the same as before.

    DraemnDraemnАй бұрын
  • the enemies to loves kind of fits my parents. they met at a mutual friend's college park and my dad told the friend 'I'd never date a girl like her'. Then about a year later they were dating and got married having 3 kids

    iAmMeKatieiAmMeKatieАй бұрын
  • two huge interests of mine are writing/character analyais, and psychology (and applying that to said writing), how am I only just now finding this channel

    tbahammytbahammyАй бұрын
  • I was actually going to mention that some real life love triangles I've known ended up with a polyamorous relationship. But that sort of becomes either a trouple, or two friends living together with their shared partner. So it starts as a love triangle and evolves towards something else. Otherwise, a choice is made and one relationship becomes a romance, and the other remains a good friendship or, if the person that is not chosen as the romantic partner can't manage to reorient their expectations and needs towards the person they were wishing to be in a romantic partnership with, they go their separate way.

    TheLostGirl21TheLostGirl21Ай бұрын
  • love interest: literally a manipulative creepy stalker main character: aww guys i can fix him

    just me ykjust me yk6 ай бұрын
    • Bruh, this isn't even far from real life. Women be doing this stuff since forever 😭😭

      Missy TizonMissy Tizon5 ай бұрын
    • @Ahstia Summers It used to be I met a woman, we'd talk, and it would go from there. Then it became a job interview. After a while, I thought, Okay, wait, here's what I bring to the table, what do YOU bring to the table? A lot have women have been encouraged not to work on themselves and just show up expecting a laundry list from men. What we are basically looking for is she kind, is she generous, is she empathetic. That's what a good man is looking for. The creeps want other stuff. And by the way, we can get dominance and aggression from another guy any day of the week. I want to see a woman with real heart, not a set of unearned expectations from me. Women in my generation were different. They didn't come to the table full of "self-esteem." Self esteem without accomplishment or some sense of doing the work of becoming a good human is just arrogance. Women don't like arrogance and entitlement any more than men do.

      The Page CollectiveThe Page Collective5 ай бұрын
    • @The Page Collective I know that everyone has things to work on, and everyone has different things they like and don't like It's a different story to be told to "give a guy a chance" or "stick with him" just because he's demonstrating basic human decency, even though he has/developed traits that I long ago decided I don't like in a person

      Ahstia SummersAhstia Summers5 ай бұрын
    • @Trina Q And WOMEN wrote those things and were 90% of the audience of those things and forked over hundreds of millions for those things.

      The Page CollectiveThe Page Collective6 ай бұрын
    • ​@Ahstia Summers Maybe you are not entitled to a "fixed" man, being a mess yourself.

      The Page CollectiveThe Page Collective6 ай бұрын
  • The love triangle of men is nothing like how men think of James Bond in a roomful of willing 18yo. It’s appealing in a movie because it explores which one should she choose and how does she find out.

    Anne McIntyreAnne McIntyreАй бұрын
  • I had what I would call a ‘enemies to lovers’ relationship. When we first met I really didn’t like him, he didn’t like me either. I had decided to be the bigger person and be nice to him and then things changed. After a long friendship, We both decided that we liked eachother a lot but never pursued a relationship (at the time I wasn’t ready for one.) he ended up moving away but till this day we’re still rly good friends.

    Chicken noodle soupChicken noodle soup2 ай бұрын
  • I started watching your channel before I met my current boyfriend, and at that time I had a very firm grasp on what love is. It was the idea of someone’s happiness and wellbeing meaning more to you than your own, and being willing to put yourself out there to make it happen. Then I met my boyfriend, and I turned into a rom-com high schooler who felt like they were in love after only a couple of weeks. Your videos helped me step outside myself and be more objective. I will always appreciate that!

    Jenna HeiserJenna HeiserАй бұрын
  • I was in a love triangle with two girls who I grew up with. I decided really early on that the best decision was to choose one to leave the romantic relationship door open on, and to close the other so that I wouldn't hurt them by leading them both on. After a few years we are all still best friends and I am in an amazing relationship with the one I devoted myself to. So the best advice I can give when it comes to a love triangle, is to make a decision and stay devoted to it. DO NOT be soft in your choice, if you are indecisive and fail to choose one, then you will inevitably hurt everyone.

    K ScK Sc11 күн бұрын
  • A trope I hate soo much in romcoms is the "giving up everything for them" thing. There is that Nicholas Cage movie, where he is a literal angel, who gives up immortality just to be with the love interest. You shouldn't be giving up everything for your partner, it's damn unhealthy to not have boundaries.

    Botond HetyeyBotond Hetyey3 ай бұрын
    • you shouldn’t give things up for love? that’s a healthy and realistic way of looking at things :-D

      Viktoria HavasViktoria Havas28 күн бұрын
    • Check out the original french version of that film. Much better

      R. BabylonR. BabylonАй бұрын
    • I love that movie, “City of Angels.” I see what you’re saying and on the surface Seth did ultimately choose to give up his immortality after he fell in love with Maggie. BUT! His interest in mortality didn’t start with her. Throughout the movie, he had an intense curiosity of the concept of “living.” When he helped souls cross over, he would always ask them “what was your favorite part of living?” and he would reminisce with his fellow angel about the answers. The story did a great job of building on his longing to experience life - his falling in love was the impetus that pushed him to finally choose. And yes, the ending was bittersweet. But then, so is life. He continued living.

      kyerinnkyerinnАй бұрын
    • I’d give up immortality for a lot less.

      valathor95valathor95Ай бұрын
    • Hercules gives up being a God for Meg

      Cirque d'JoyCirque d'JoyАй бұрын
  • How to deal with being the center of a love triangle: tell both guys what is going on and that you are taking 3 days to decide who you are going to commit to; spend those 3 days without either of them, ZERO boombox moments allowed; return and declare your decision. It was stressful as hell and all 3 of us cried at some point in the proceedings, but we got through with no cheating, lying, or power plays. I learned a lot about myself. It was one of the most stressful weekends I've ever had, but I knew I had to step up and do the right thing by these 2 guys who had both been honest with me and not tried to 'win' me over. The guy I ended up with actually cried a few months later bc he still felt really bad for putting me and my ex in a love triangle (he'd told me his feelings with the full intent of being rejected).

    ThirteenthHourThirteenthHourАй бұрын
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